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[–] Cocodapuf 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, these headlines are continuing to say the astronauts are stranded, which really isn't the case. This vehicle is working well enough to return them at any time.

The thing is, there is something weird going on with some of the thrusters (of which there are many for redundancy) and this is their only chance to investigate the issue. If they were to return with the astronauts now, it would mean leaving the thrust module to burn up in the atmosphere, and then we wouldn't be able to test the problematic parts. We could still do that (leave now), but we'd miss out on this opportunity to test hardware and understand better why some thrusters failed.

On the other hand, this is still a huge waste of money and it's one more example of Boeing bungling things. So I'm not saying this is a great situation, just that the astronauts are not actually "stranded".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps if they released some clue what they are learning, and what weeks 9, 10, 11, and 12 will reveal about the problem. Around week 4 this was a PR disaster and the silence is speaking even if they aren’t.

[–] Cocodapuf 3 points 3 months ago

Well, the aerospace industry is not really known for moving quickly... But then Boeing collects a paycheck either way, so they don't seem to be in any particular hurry.

But I don't know, I'm not sure it's a pr disaster, I mean it's no worse than it usually is up there. We've had a Soyuz that sprang a leak and started venting atmosphere. We've had random helium leaks into crew compartments. We've run out of working eva suits. We've had resupply missions that never actually made it all the way to orbit, we've had a lot of non-critical internal equipment failures.

It's a real challenge keeping everything working, this is just one example of how things can go wrong. (Though admittedly, not a lot has really ever gone right with Starliner.)

[–] Bytemeister 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the ISS always has a Soyuz on hand to bring astronauts back, but if they use that, then all the astronauts have to go back because the "bail out" options will be gone. So troubleshooting and getting the boeing capsule working is the primary goal.

[–] Cocodapuf 3 points 3 months ago

Well yes, that would suck to have to abandon the ISS for any period. Definitely not optimal. But as I said, they could leave in the Starliner right now, if they wanted, they have more than enough thrusters functional to control the craft. It just makes more sense to stay until they've done all the troubleshooting and know how to ensure this doesn't happen again.