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Jill Stein needs to go the fuck away.
Like to fucking Pluto.
Real inconvenient to Democrats when there's a non Genocide alternative.
You misspelled Russian puppet.
Also thinking that democrats voting third-party will do anything other than help Trump, who wants Israel to go all the way and wants to crackdown on pro-palestine protests... is pure delusion.
You would think someone who posts almost exclusively about Israel would know that 🤷♂️
What evidence is there of this? I won't vote for her but she has been around for years and seems well intentioned.
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/red-alert-putin-puppet-jill-stein-and-her-russia-friendly-agenda
This is interesting, thanks. I will certainly dig into this more.
Here's a link explaining the actual context around her going to that dinner coming from her directly
Running as a hopeless spoiler candidate designed to draw votes away from the left is not a well intentioned course.
I disagree, it's a naive course, but I do believe that people who run for and support third parties are generally well intentioned.
I think Jill Stein is entirely too suspicious to be considered a good faith third party. Others have provided evidence. You can attribute good intentions all you want, but it’s irresponsible to be blind to the impact at best, or simply inexcusable to bring it about at worst.
I'm not a huge fan of her or anything but I do firmly believe that third parties should exist. I've been aware of Stein for a long time and thought she just seemed like a simple environmentalist. I have only recently become aware of the allegations of her working with Russia and I can't tell from what I have read if it's legit or not, or if it's just Democrats trying to turn people against her. Regardless, I will not be voting for her.
Independently, yes, I support the concept of a third party. If we can institute ranked choice voting or some other system, bring it on. Until then though, it’s just unrealistic and dangerous.
She's a fucking wackjob who thought 911 was an inside job. That's not even the only reason she is a wackjob.
Nothing liberals are just making up crazy conspiracy theories while ignoring the direct line between israel and the Democrats.
Ok, but Israel has a direct line to every viable party in every country.
Third party candidates simply do not work in the US electoral system. The system needs to be fixed before we can get more diverse choices.
Go fix it. Some of us will be voting 3rd party in the meantime.
Wake me when her party gets more than 3% in an election. That's not an alternative.
The best shot the Greeens had was Ralph Nader and he only hit 2.75% 24 years ago.
Stein BARELY cracked 1% in 2016.
And Ralph's campaign never ran on the platform of winning but to force the Democratic party to adopt more left policies or risk losing.
For a more detailed explanation I recommend this excellent talk from Ralph's speech writer and all around based person Chris Hedges about it https://youtu.be/69pEzsfX8Aw?t=22m28s
It's pretty tempting, instead of actual accomplishments to brag about all the bad stuff you prevented from happening. What do you think about the argument that Nader's playbook for effective political action was ignored by left activists, but adopted by corporate America?
It really was Nader who taught them that "consumers" were interested in civic engagement and oversight. That's why you can't buy a latte without "supporting" some charity, or check out at the grocery without a solicitation for cancer research. Corporations have learned to wrap the desire for civic engagement to the act of consumption. To short circuit any engagement that might be against their interests. Arguably, Ralph Nader showed them that they needed to do this, and he showed them how.
Alternative, lol.