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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nope. I tend to believe them though. His generation of rappers isn't exactly known for respecting women.

[–] citrusface 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a pretty narrow-minded view but okay.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to judge on a case-by-case basis when women are dissuaded from pursuing abusers in court. We simply don't know, because we live in a rape culture, and it is a struggle to convict rapists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We live in a rape culture?

Would you please expand?

[–] PugJesus 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Rape culture refers to the tendency of a society to downplay or dismiss rape, its seriousness, or accusations thereof. Think of the vile "boys being boys" or "he has such a bright future ahead of him, he just made one little mistake!" kind of justifications that still pop up from time to time in high-profile rape cases.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is just fucked up and I can’t say I recognize it at all from my isolated little Nordic corner. Nobody defends rape.

Is it a US thing?

[–] PugJesus 6 points 3 months ago

No, unfortunately, it's still widespread across the world.

It's definitely stronger in older generations, though. Pushback in the 60s, 70s, 90s, and 2010s have weakened it, though most places it still rears its ugly head far too often for comfort. I can attest that it remains prominent in, at the very least, the US, the UK, and France.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don’t see anything here making it a rape culture?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

All quotes from https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2019/04/rape-and-sexual-violence-in-nordic-countries-consent-laws/

“Social stigma and a lack of trust in the justice system often mean that women and girls fail to report attacks, and those that do, are frequently failed by callous and prejudiced justice systems or outdated laws. One survivor told us she would never have reported her rape if she had known how she would have been be treated, and her story is typical in justice systems which are stacked against rape survivors.”

Whilst the situation facing survivors of rape is not uniform across the four Nordic countries, there are disturbing parallels among them whose criminal justice systems ignore, deny and tacitly condone sexual violence against women.

That's rape culture.

 

I'm a child of rape. Please don't talk to me about it if you wish to belittle the problem. Please don't talk to any women about it, it's far too possible they're a rape survivor and haven't told you, and they do not want to hear about your ignorance.

Just shut up in general about this issue if you do not understand. We don't need your lack of belief that this is an issue.

As a rape survivor, for my mental health, I will block you if you engage with me on this. Just shut up: my mental health is more important than your questions. Do not even post a "you must be brave" or "I'm sorry to hear it" or "I didn't mean it". My trauma doesn't exist for you to score virtue points. My trauma does not exist for you to defend your government and legal system, which you think are very good. I don't care about that - that's your belief, and you are welcome to it. Just don't reply. Thank you.

 

Every year, around 50,000 women in Finland experience sexual violence, including rape. Most of those responsible for these crimes are never brought to justice. In 2017 only 209 convictions were secured for rape.

That's rape culture.

Norwegian authorities have not taken the necessary measures to prevent rape and other forms of sexual violence or to address the consequences when such crimes occur. Prevailing and erroneous myths about rape make it hard for rape victims to report the crime to the police or to seek medical help. They also influence the way rape cases are handled by the criminal justice system.

That's rape culture.

Harmful attitudes will not be suddenly changed by a change in the law. A recent study found that that almost one in 10 people in Sweden agreed that gender-based violence against women is often provoked by the victim herself. One survivor told Amnesty International: ”I even got that comment from my mother. She said ’I have always tried to teach you how to dress.’”

That's rape culture.

Rape in Denmark is hugely under-reported and even when women do go to the police, the chances of prosecution or conviction are very slim. Of the 24,000 women found by a recent study to have experienced rape or attempted rape in 2017 alone, just 890 rapes were reported to the police. Of these, 535 resulted in prosecutions and only 94 in convictions.

That's rape culture.

In 2018, Amnesty analysed rape legislation in 31 European countries, and only eight of them have laws that define sex without consent as rape.

That's rape culture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Please do block me as I think it would be better for the both of us.

Your holier-than-thou attitude without having a single grain of my backstory is just sad. I dont want or need your bad advice. I want to learn from those open minded enough to share their knowledge and have a fruitful discussion about a topic that that is very important. You are clearly not in a good enough place yet to have that, and that is fine. Just don’t spew your righteous hatred at me and expect me to obey. It wont happen as I wish to learn. You wish to control.

For what it’s worth: I am truly sorry. And regardless of what you think; I know a bit more about the topic than you give me credit for.

Wish you well in your future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You have the reading comprehension of a snail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Whatever makes you feel better about your own insecurities. Feel free to throw more ad-hominem if it makes you feel better.

Take care now.

[–] niktemadur 7 points 3 months ago

Even some of the allegedly "more enlightened" ones, I remember in 1992 or '93 Speech from Arrested Development rapping about women needing to make more babies for the revolution. Remaining pregnant and nurturing is the happy, dutiful way to be, if you're a woman. That's an archaic stance, to say the least.