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Man, the amount of heads buried in the sand on this is egregious. He picked him for one reason and one reason only. If he wins Vance will play ball in 28 when they suspend elections. No one in Trump's campaign cares about his weird emails, his couch, or his brown family. He has one job and he is morally flexible enough to break his oath of office to do it.
Yeah, but if Vance costs Trump the election none of that comes into play. Trump needs to get back into the oval office to have the option of destroying democracy once and for all.
They have been planning for that since Jan 7th, 2021. This isn't some fly-by-night if I win thing, this will be a well-planned coup attempt. I hope I am wrong but they are openly insinuating as to what their plans are.
Edit: changes 2020 to 2021 Thank you Samus12345 for pointing out the mistake.
2021, you mean?
Yes, thank you.
I mean he can't abuse presidential immunity if he's not president. Vance can't refuse to transition power to a new administration if he isn't VP. They can try another Jan. 6th but without trump dangling the possibility of pardon's that's less attractive to would be rioters. Some backwoods states can threaten to secede but they'll get shut down in a heartbeat if they actuality try. The gravy seals can threaten a civil war but the idea that they can size power for more than a weekend in some hick town is a pipe dream.
So, let's just keep underestimating the opposition, and let's see where that gets us.
I'm not underestimating them. If Trump wins this year it's all over. Kiss democracy goodbye. If Trump loses they have no other moves. They're done. That's what you suggested in your first post, and then you decided to argue that they will win even if Trump loses which is crazy town talk.
I think you are, and I think the left has made a hobby of underestimating the "Christian" right. I think it is very naive to say the only backing they have is backwoods states and gravy seals. They have had 4 years to plan and organize. They had fake electors, police, and active-duty military; that one alone should scare you, and now 19 governors actively pushing the election fraud lie. They have the courts, and all it would take is some organized violence and solid leadership.
None of what I am typing matters because you will keep your head buried just like everyone else because then you would have to admit this movement is bigger than you have been told or want to believe. That's been the problem since 2016, underestimating the ideology that runs Trump is how we got him.
I hope you are right, but I am still going to be ready for it if or when you are wrong. As the old man said, "We will see."
Peace
I do fear an uprising after Trump loses in November, since he won’t accept his defeat. Still much better than him winning though.
Bring it. Those assholes need to be shown they have no place in a democratic America.