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Buttigieg Tells Fox Viewers that MAGA Is a Cult. Calls Trump "older and stranger" than he was in 2016
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Something on your mind?
I heard there are pills for that.
No there are no pills for thinking of cock
That I was calling pete a dick that has a good point here? It seems like you got the joke so I'm not sure what your point is.
Sounds more like an attempt to be funny and bigoted against a gay man. Congrats. You aren't funny, but you succeeded in your bigotry.
And just how in the hell is that bigoted? Man's a huge dick. Unless he dresses up like one in the bedroom (which would be admittedly hilarious) his being a neoliberal stooge has fuckall to do with his sexuality. I just. What are you even doing?? Are you so sensitive to homophobia that a negative comment about a gay man that mentions dicks must be becauze I'm a homophobe? Should I have called him a corporate-loving cunt instead? Sure, it's a gendered insult with a history of sexism far more problematic than calling him a knobhead (but hey at least its not homophobic). If so, you might want to take a break from the internet.
I, a man, have sucked at least as many dicks as he has. But while I have blown many rooms full of dudes, I have always been very careful to never blow a room full of wall street execs. He really can't claim the same. Fuck Pete B, and fuck you for trying to use accusations of homophobia to derail legitimate pushback based on his actions as a public figure. Stop weaponizing my sexuality.
Whoa, pretty defensive there. Sounds like a lot of internalized self hatred.
... Are you trying to call me bigoted while invoking the spectacularly homophobic stereotype of gay men being self loathing because of their sexuality? Because even ironically that's pretty gross to fall back on.
“I know you are but what am I?” Is a deflection tactic used by children. And it’s hardly convincing anyone.
Don’t try to hide your bigotry by accusing others when they call you out on it. it’s obvious projection and crude. Not to mention predictable.
I see how you think that's what happened, but no. I was responding to obvious bait by talking past it, and drawing attention to the fact the stock retort of "lel gay man hates self for gay bcz conservative (or whatever)" is incredibly hypocritical when people are baselessly accusing someone of being a bigot. But, I'd really appreciate if you can point to where I was being a bigot! I've been accused of it, but man I just can't see where I actually... am? Whereas that one critic did regurgitate a particularly tiresome piece of homophobia. Cheers.
It was already called out, and pretty clearly. If you’re having a sudden attack of amnesia, simply scroll up to previous comments. And your twisting of events doesn’t hold water, because we can all read the comments and see what actually happened here.
And, no, not every piece of criticism against you is “homophobia”. You’re not the victim here.
Um. No. It hasn't been. People have pointed out it wasn't a funny pun, but nobody has pointed to anything I've actually said as specifically problematic. Or bigoted. Or like, anything besides attempting to taunt/bait me? It's been very smug.
Seriously, can you do this for me? What'd I actually say that was bigoted?
Multiple comments (here’s one) point out that it’s bigoted, and the offending comment has even been removed by the mod.
Clearly your problems also extend to only seeing what you wish to see…
You keep insulting me, could you possibly... stop? Either I am, in fact, deeply bigoted or I'm just not clear on how this was actually bigoted. I know you're not engaging with this in 100% good faith here, and I understand that you think you're just dealing with a troll, but you aren't. I'm genuinely unclear on how insulting the man was bigoted. Should I have used a different insult, or something?
If you find the criticism you face for your reprehensible behavior hurts your feelings, you could simply stop behaving in such a reprehensible manner. But these are the consequences of those actions. You keep saying awful things, and you’re gonna get called out for it. Don’t like that? Stop doing it.
Insulting me while accusing me of doing what you, yourself, are doing is nothing more than deflection and projection. And it’s fooling nobody.
I... didn't insult you, though? I can address the rest, sure, but man, I didn't accuse you of anything except responding to someone you don't think is dealing with you in good faith. Something I even excused in that comment.
I have no doubt that you believe that. The evidence of your comments proves otherwise.
No, seriously, what was the insult there. Please, quote the relevant section. I feel like I'm losing my mind here. It was in no way my intention to insult you.
Now you’re just sealioning. Go beg for attention someplace else.
The only specific response you've given me didn't tell me what was wrong, it linked me to a comment accusing me of doing something wrong. I don't KNOW what I did wrong, and you just won't tell me! And now you're making things up about the DOT in other comments?? Seriously, what was it that I said that made that comment bigoted. What was it that I said that made any comment here bigoted. I'm crying trying to figure out what the hell to do different so this doesn't happen again and I don't come across bigoted, and all you're doing is being a dick to me for that. Please, just, fucking please, can you explain like I'm a goddamn idiot child and explain what I did WRONG here??
For you
Thank you, I guess? May I have another...? Possibly with a real response in it?
Jokes are meant to be funny
Sure it's a cheap pun, but I guess I didn't realize how many people really like buttigieg. Which is deeply surprising tbh, I'm usually pretty spot on with the broad attitudes of lemmy politics.
I'm kinda assuming most of the hate is bandwagoning or people who've never looked into his politics. Man's pretty awful.
What's wrong with his politics?
He was (famously) a fairly high-ranking McKinsey consultant, which is a bit old news but it still baffles me how openly corrupt our political situation is that he was afforded a cabinet position. But on a more recent note, his absolute failure to do anything, including public health announcements, for a full week after the East Palestine derailment. when his office knew there were serious public health concerns has directly lead to the death of a family member. Admittedly that family member was an idiot, but an idiot with fragile health due to an organ transplant. I don't know if a prompt response would have convinced them to leave or wear a mask or something, but holy fuck is it inexcusable that Buttigieg waited so long to warn nearby residents of the danger.
Lmao this was his first job after he graduated from Oxford, when he was 25. "Fairly high-ranking" my ass.
He got a cabinet position because he was a popular candidate for the Democratic nomination in 2020 and he's smart as a whip with a tongue to match. There are few people who are more competent the role, and whatever nefarious thing you think is happening is based entirely on your feelings.
Also the US DOT doesn't have the authority to issue health warnings, so your anger there is misplaced.
Where are you getting the DOT thing from? DOT incident response is the group responsible for urgent public health announcements from transit related accidents. They may have been coordinating with the EPA, but even from the article the other user cited talks about what I'm saying happened here:
I'm just so lost about where this is coming from.
Edit: Seriously, this comment is just about citing the sources for my criticism of buttigieg. I'm so damn lost as to why it appears to be controversial.
The EPA is responsible for announcing environmental threats to public health, not the Department of Transportation. Buttigieg had nether the authority nor remit to make such an announcement.
Place your blame where it belongs, and, in the meantime, educate yourself on the functions of our governmental departments.
Okay, you can't be serious with this one. DOT releases time-sensitive public health information all the time. The EPA is in no way the sole agency responsible for this - BLM, OSHA, 911 dispatch, hell even the parks department are empowered to give public warnings. He absolutely has the authority and remit to have made this announcement. His agency is specifically tasked with public health warnings for transit accidents. It's literally their job. That's what DOT placards are about.
A little education as to why even the EPA didn’t have the authority in the East Palestine incident:
https://apnews.com/article/east-palestine-derailment-epa-public-health-emergency-be238b72219ecc4b6e5c7b88eefbf6f9
Instead of rage-posting with your profound ignorance, perhaps you should actually do some research before saying such silly things and looking foolish.
I'm sorry but... That isn't even slightly relevant here. That's an article about an entirely separate agency, it's got nothing to do with DOT incident response, it's talking about community health reporting. It even brings up the issue of medical under-reporting being the used justification for not declaring a public health emergency in the aftermath.
This goes back to the problem of you only seeing what you wish to see, as I mentioned in an earlier comment.
The article discusses who had authority and who didn’t and why. If you fail to comprehend that, that’s your own problem, but it doesn’t magically make you correct.
I've read the article though, and the only section discussing immediate incident response is about how the governor and fire chief claim they weren't told that they didn't need to burn it, which (if you believe them) supports what I'm saying.
But it... doesn't talk about that at all? Seriously, you're being a huge dick to me about all this, but once again it's just not in there. The closest we get is this:
Which is discussing long term incident response, as clarified in another article on the same topic from The Independent:
It doesn't talk about the immediate incident response, the thing I'm criticizing Buttigieg for.
So I've... just shown you're wrong, and now you're just going to copy-paste the same thing to be churlish? I mean, go ahead I guess. But this sure feels like every time I explain myself coherently or make a decent point, you pivot your tactics to insulting or dismissing me.
You're... kinda making my case for me, you know?
For you
Starting to feel like I might not be the one fishing for attention here...
The rest of it is discussing aftermath management, which is reasonable to go through the EPA and is not at all what I have an issue with (though, I'd be very curious about the healthcare access for residents, as it would illuminate if the residents are simply attributing normal illness to the crash or if the EPA's lack of a response due to medical under-reporting is a poor strategy to take in long term management of public health incidents like this)
I agree