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[–] EleventhHour 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This goes back to the problem of you only seeing what you wish to see, as I mentioned in an earlier comment.

The article discusses who had authority and who didn’t and why. If you fail to comprehend that, that’s your own problem, but it doesn’t magically make you correct.

[–] Warl0k3 -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've read the article though, and the only section discussing immediate incident response is about how the governor and fire chief claim they weren't told that they didn't need to burn it, which (if you believe them) supports what I'm saying.

[–] EleventhHour 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This goes back to the problem of you only seeing what you wish to see, as I mentioned in an earlier comment.

The article discusses who had authority and who didn’t and why. If you fail to comprehend that, that’s your own problem, but it doesn’t magically make you correct.

[–] Warl0k3 -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But it... doesn't talk about that at all? Seriously, you're being a huge dick to me about all this, but once again it's just not in there. The closest we get is this:

Officials also believed the agency had enough authority to respond to the derailment without declaring an emergency.

Which is discussing long term incident response, as clarified in another article on the same topic from The Independent:

The aftermath of last year's fiery train derailment in eastern Ohio doesn't qualify as a public health emergency because widespread health problems and ongoing chemical exposures haven't been documented, federal officials said.

It doesn't talk about the immediate incident response, the thing I'm criticizing Buttigieg for.

[–] EleventhHour 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This goes back to the problem of you only seeing what you wish to see, as I mentioned in an earlier comment.

The article discusses who had authority and who didn’t and why. If you fail to comprehend that, that’s your own problem, but it doesn’t magically make you correct.

[–] Warl0k3 -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So I've... just shown you're wrong, and now you're just going to copy-paste the same thing to be churlish? I mean, go ahead I guess. But this sure feels like every time I explain myself coherently or make a decent point, you pivot your tactics to insulting or dismissing me.

[–] EleventhHour 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This goes back to the problem of you only seeing what you wish to see, as I mentioned in an earlier comment.

The article discusses who had authority and who didn’t and why. If you fail to comprehend that, that’s your own problem, but it doesn’t magically make you correct.

[–] Warl0k3 -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're... kinda making my case for me, you know?

[–] EleventhHour 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3 -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Starting to feel like I might not be the one fishing for attention here...

[–] Warl0k3 -5 points 1 month ago

The rest of it is discussing aftermath management, which is reasonable to go through the EPA and is not at all what I have an issue with (though, I'd be very curious about the healthcare access for residents, as it would illuminate if the residents are simply attributing normal illness to the crash or if the EPA's lack of a response due to medical under-reporting is a poor strategy to take in long term management of public health incidents like this)