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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Cellular enabled cars are conceptually dumb. That's a hill I'm willing to die on.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Me when my car gets hack and remote controlled to drive off a cliff:

"Ahhh" D: sploosh

[–] kalleboo 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Naw, I live in a hot as hell country I'm super jealous of people who can remote-start the air conditioning in their cars.

It should be an open interface like OBD2 though where you can choose the hardware/provider instead of being locked to the car manufacturer deprecating everything in 3 years to sell you a new car.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Two way alarm systems with remote start have been a thing for pretty long and don't all require cellular connection. Some are just super long distance key fobs.

[–] sheogorath 8 points 3 months ago

You don't really need connected cars for that. My car has no smart features but still has a remote start capability. It uses the car remote to trigger it instead of cellular connection.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Assuming you park next to your house a WiFi connection on the local network would be everything you need. Relatively cheap compared to the car would be a repeater to extend it for people like me who park 30-50m away I agree with you assumption that this is car manufacturers creating software based planned obsolescence. An open source framework would resolve this concern even over cell networks but defeats the entire point of also pushing power windows and seat heating as a service.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 3 months ago

I cannot remote start my car. If it's really hot or really cold, I go outside for a few seconds to start the car and then go back inside. It's really not that big a hardship.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Makes no sense to me...but at this very moment I'm a hypocrite lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Crash-detection systems can use cellular to alert medical authorities, that and theft are about the only practical use cases i see for that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I feel like these days the tech should be there to just leverage our cell phones for this. Most drivers have their phones paired to their cars now anyway, and perhaps some sort of emergency protocol could be created where a car could even connect through a nearby non-paired phone for an automated emergency call too. As for tracking - make cars have something like an air tag type function built in that can share both android+apple tracking networks. This is all a pipe dream anyway - there's money to be made on connected car services so the shareholders won't be for modernizing the approach anytime soon.