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Just started Lemmying today. Have lots of questions. Someone mentioned mod logs, so I went down a rabbit hole reading mod logs. The only reason I left reddit was because many mods are dicks. But reading the logs, it seems mods ban people and censor like crazy here too. Isn’t Lemmy supposed to be more free and open? How is this different from Reddit? I honestly don’t understand.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's different from Reddit because if you don't like the way your instance is moderated you can just use another instance and still see content from another

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Unlike on Reddit, where if you don’t like a subreddit you’re totally unable to…

Wait hang on

(I think it is the natural endpoint of putting people in a position of power, then asking them to do a thankless job and interact with the worst the community has to offer day in and day out without reprieve and expect them to remain cheerful and evenhanded the entire time. I don’t think Lemmy has any particular advantage in that regard, except that it is younger and moderators have had less time to turn bitter.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Lemmy's structure makes mod abuse much easier. That said, it is easier for groups to leave if they disagree with mods and admins, like with what happened with StarTrek.website.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I was talking about instance level stuff, for example I'm on Lemm.ee but I can still interact with lemmy.world, but yeah there isn't much difference on the community level other than communities being able to have the same name if they're on different servers

[–] Fishingee 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Okay. I don’t quite understand instances yet, but I think I see what you’re saying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Instead of one central Reddit, imagine hundreds of mini-Reddits each with their own users, communities, rules, culture, etc. Now connect them all together so the users on each mini-Reddit can read/post/comment on any of the others. That basically how this works; each Lemmy instance is a mini-Reddit in a sea of peers.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

May I suggest.....

[email protected]

I've been saying that day 1 new here is very overwhelming. I've been suggesting a whole "new to Lemmy" wiki, which explains all the normal questions. Until then, I reccomend this community.

Also.....don't call us Lemmings. Some people do it, and I'm trying to stop them. I prefer fediversians.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The lemming ship is long since sailed. I don’t love it but fediversians may be worse lol

[–] Boozilla 2 points 4 months ago

I like "lemmies" but I haven't seen it used much...if ever....perhaps I made it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been suggesting a whole “new to Lemmy” wiki, which explains all the normal questions.

There is an FAQ in that community: https://sopuli.xyz/post/5798877?scrollToComments=true

Feel free to comment there with additional tips

[–] Lost_My_Mind 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You unintentionally bring up a point I've been confused about. How do I get rid of ?scrollToComments=true when I browse? I want my browser to stay at the top when I click a topic. Instead it ALWAYS skips the content, and scrolls me to the comments. I clicked for the content! I want my page to load at the top, and I'll scroll as I read.

How do I change that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Click on the title rather than the comments icon:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, unless they blocklist instances. It's sad that operators would rather tear at the fabric of the fediverse than to allow users on their instances to get exposed to opinions that they don't like.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

See, thats the balancing act. I feel like it's smart to say "well sign up to the smallest instance you can find", that way the owner won't care.

But I feel that runs the risk of that instance can disappear at anytime. Which I assume would make your account inaccessible.

We need to make defederating on an instance level not an option. If I want to block a community, or a person, I can. Why block everyone else from seeing something I disagree with?

Now I fully get why instances need to block an individual. If some guy came on here promoting nazism, sure. I get that. Ban him.

But me, not doing anything wrong can't communicate with any instances that Lemmy.World has deemed me not needing to see...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Because some instances that aren’t managed well can just have tons and tons of spambots signing up constantly such that it’s not practical to ban individual accounts. Especially since most admin and mod teams are small on Lemmy. There are also literal nazi instances that exist just to go out and harass and threaten minorities or people they hate. While you could ban all the users it’s a lot easier to just block the whole instance.

So while I agree with you that it’s overused, I don’t see how completely disallowing it can work. Not sure what a better solution would look like though.

[–] Funwayguy 5 points 4 months ago

This naively assumes there aren't malicious or extremists instances hell bent on brigading others in the fediverse. Without defederation, they can keep spinning up accounts to bypass individual bans until mods are overwhelmed.

Every instance retains their respective right to block who they deem a risk whether that's an individual or instance. As an individual, you are more than welcome to create a separate account on another instances if you disagree with your current instance rules or bans, as is the nature of the fediverse.