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Fresh off victories in other legal cases, Donald Trump on Monday pressed a New York appeals court to overturn the nearly $500 million New York civil fraud judgment that threatens to drain his personal cash reserves as he campaigns to retake the White House.

In paperwork filed with the state’s mid-level appeals court, the former president’s lawyers said Manhattan Judge Arthur Engoron’s Feb. 16 finding that Trump lied to banks, insurers and others about his wealth was “erroneous” and “egregious.”

His lawyers argued that New York Attorney General Letitia James’ lawsuit should have been promptly dismissed, the statute of limitations barred some allegations, that no one was harmed by Trump’s alleged fraud and that James’ involvement in private business transactions threatens to drive business out of the state.

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[–] skeezix 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry. Convicted felon pay up asshole.

[–] FuglyDuck 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sorry. If you can’t pay the fine, don’t do the crime.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He can pay, the problem is that he doesn't want to.

[–] FuglyDuck 5 points 1 month ago

So, the issue is that a lot of the assets he does have, have been used as collateral already.

The loan is still in escrow, afik, but it’s likely he can’t actually liquidate those assets (because collateral.) or use them as collateral for another loan (because banks don’t like to share collateral.)

In short he’s leveraged to his neck on his properties, and may not have the ready cash; if that loan were to go poof for some reason. (Like being illegal. I never did catch what happened with that.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I doubt he can

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Can he though?

He might never have been a billionaire at any point, he's always been leveraged to the gills and bleeding money. Plus the fraud, making up fake names to call up Forbes to be declared a billionaire, and the fact he is constantly hustling (while campaigning and terminally old) for a few more million

Most of all, there's the fact that billionaires are only billionaires on paper. Their wealth would shrink massively if they can't time the sell-offs at the right time, most commonly known billionaires could keep the title selling for 10 cents on the dollar, but Trump isn't near that level no matter how you slice it

Mar a Lago is estimated at like 200-300m, his apartment is worth tens of millions, and pretty much everything else he only owns a partial stake in and is likely leveraged even if it could be cleanly sold. And who knows what other debt factors in - he's had a lot of failed projects and a lot of unpaid invoices

None of them are proof, but altogether it doesn't paint the picture of a billionaire - a billion dollars is a truly unthinkable amount of money, and I can't see a showoff like him not collecting things to brag about

I don't think he has it, or if he does it'd be a close thing

And to leave you with a final thought - Trump owns 3 guns, one of which he risked his freedom to hide away. What kind of billionaire both cares about guns enough to break parole (even if the prison risk was very unlikely), but also doesn't have a small armory professionally decorated just to show off?