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Lol, WTF are you talking about? Every bit of this is ignorant. Let me correct you so you're not running around embarrassing yourself:
Anyway, your entire understanding of how everything works is wrong. You should read more.
way to be a dick
It was warranted.
Eh.
I feel like you'd unironically quote the Stallman copypasta. You may be right but dude, unclench a little.
I'm fine. Just sick of people with names like "TimLivesTech" out here spouting off complete nonsense. It makes everyone who comes in contact with him a little worse for having believed his bullshit.
More people need to call it out and correct, not "unclench" and just let it keep happening.
But you were being a jerk about it when you didn't need to be. Trust me, we recognize our own. I've been trying to retrain myself out of that for a while with I think at least moderate success, enough that I feel I can bring it to someone else's attention when I see it without being a complete hypocrite in the process.
Seems I hit a nerve, sorry.
Yes, sorry I got SteamOS and Steam for Linux conflated. While SteamOS has moved from Debian, the Steam for Linux github still lists "Latest Ubuntu or Ubuntu LTS with a 64-bit (x86_64, AMD64) Linux kernel". As for the move for SteamOS to Arch, taken from Alberto Garcia who made the pitch and was on the team doing the work described it as such.
And you are correct in that they then use the Arch image to make an immutable A/B partitioning scheme for SteamOS. But you must also agree that Arch gets them using upstream packages instead of stale outdated ones if left on Debian, and is the reasoning behind the change.
It may well be, but I think it is a disservice to new people for anyone to push them towards a distro that will be running outdated software from day 1 of their install (especially since these people are "gamers"). Oh but you just need to add a PPA! Super, add in the many someone wanting to run any semblance of an updated system might want and guess what, update time and Ubuntu just fell over. OK, maybe they somehow manage to preemptively disable all the PPA repos they have added before upgrading, yay!, I would say it's still a 50/50 on if Ubuntu shits the bed on upgrade anyway. (I ran Ubuntu for many years before I learned my lesson)
When did I assert anything you are alleging?? And I understand how loading modules works, thanks. I also know that when update your system base more then every 6+ months, that sometimes system libraries change, and sometimes modules need to be recompiled against them. Also using kernel 6.8 is a great example of how running an outdated distro IMHO would put a "gamer" at a disadvantage, when 6.10 was just released. And with these kernel updates come new modules for newer hardware, as well as fixes for filesystems, etc. (all things that would be helpful if you want to game on your PC and not just "work")
What did I mention that was incorrect about backports? They happen all the time for distros that need to maintain an LTS for years, allowing them to fix bugs without needing to move everything forward. Do I have it correct now?
I appreciate your talking down to me, you are truly the Linux ambassador we have been awaiting! All hail @[email protected]! All hail @[email protected]! May his reign be long and prosperous! Everyone else RTFM!