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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Positive attitude fitness guru, dead at 76.

Sex positive feminist icon, dead at 96.

Draw your own conclusions about what the best cardio exercise is.

[–] dohpaz42 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

My dad was a fitness enthusiast. He exercised daily, ate what he was supposed to eat, didn’t drink or smoke, no drugs, and he died at 68. My mother, whom doesn’t exercise, smokes, eats whatever she wants (usually junk food and highly processed foods), is still alive and kicking and is now 77.

I lost faith in the whole “exercise for a healthier/longer life” mentality 9 years ago. Live your life, be happy, do things in moderation, and make sure you do what you love with the people you love. If that includes exercise, good for you.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's the funny thing about looking at individual cases, we can't say what their lifespan would have been like if their behavior was different.

But we can look at large groups of people and say that yes, in general, being fit and healthy tends to result in a longer lifespan.

[–] Fedizen -1 points 5 months ago

correlation =/= causation. Its a major problem in dietary science. It could simply be healthier gut bacteria or it could be stress.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I’m no fan of exercise. But as I imminently approach 40, I’m feeling and seeing its value more and more. The purpose of fitness is not longevity - it is independence and quality of life. Just assume you’re going to live to age 90 either way. Look around at some 80 year olds. Breathing machines, walkers, bed ridden… how do you want to spend your years? Years! Your body will become a torture prison unless you tend to it. Dying is the least of my concerns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I know plenty of examples like that in my circle of family and friends.

But you know what, a lot of those people who have shitty health, eat whatever and live to be 80 are miserable, senile, weak and unhealthy people for the last ten years of their lives. They do live long lives but what sense is it to survive to 70 or 80 if you are going to be miserable and probably not be aware for the last ten years of your life?

It's fun to say eat whatever you want and not exercise but if you risk torturing yourself for the last few years of your life .... what's the point?

I'd rather be as healthy as possible right up to end if I can help it. I certainly don't want to be a helpless old man who can't think anymore and leave my family to decide when and if I should go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I like the idea of a healthy life rather than measuring it in raw years.

Must be all the preservatives they put into junk food! Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The difference between quality of life rather than quantity of life.

[–] Alexstarfire 2 points 5 months ago

Depends on what you want out of life. I eat a fair amount of healthy stuff but I also eat fried xhicken, chicken wings, plenty of sweets, etc. I'm not going to deny myself small pleasures on the offchance it let's me live a bit longer.

That said, I also don't want to basically be suffering for the last 10 years of my life. If it gets that bad, maybe I'll just end it myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You may, or may not like this song but here you go.. https://youtu.be/QT3-ySabCiA?si=u0KeB5tKvONyiFMM

Catchy at least.

[–] DarkCloud -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Homeostasis is life, keeping it in a stable manageable range is longevity.

Fitness can put all sorts of strains on the body that someone living within their limits might not have to endure.

[–] not_that_guy05 9 points 5 months ago

Mic Jagger is 81 is still performing and did drugs through his years.

I think I drew my conclusion. Give me all the drugs like Jagger. Thank you.

[–] enbyecho 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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