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300 million lbs of fireworks and 2.7 billion dollars gone in a cloud of smoke.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Waste of money? No more so than any other form of entertainment that is temporary.

Environmentally, yeah…they’re pretty bad. Air pollution is a big issue. Some birds get killed when they run into things because they can’t see very well after being scared off by the fireworks. Any large human event is environmentally bad, like a sporting event.

We generate literal tons of plastic and other human waste when we gather for mass entertainment.

[–] Lightor 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but at the end of the day we're handing out explosives for people to play with, even kids. Just feels like it's not the best form of celebration.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Injury and fires are compounding factors, no denying that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We already know sterile environments make people allergic.

I am actually concerned about what kind of behavioral “allergies” will arise from a society with no danger. It is not a natural state and it is not something we should be experimenting with lightly.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We already know what happens.

Anti-vax

Pro-war

Pro-authoritarianism

Anti-education

Etc.

Once you’ve divorced yourself completely from the dangers of watching family and people around you die from preventable diseases all the time, the horrors of actually having to live through your city destroyed and people you know be devastated by war, the crushing oppression and greed of authoritarian regimes, your education controlled specifically to prevent you from you getting any ideas about real freedoms, that’s what you get when you remove real danger from society.

But I think you probably meant something more mundane like kids will start making graffiti or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, I meant more like the dangers of nature.

Having your whole city get destroyed is an unnatural thing that comes with advanced civilization and armies. I’m totally fine with eliminating that kind of “danger” from the world.

But the danger of riding a motorcycle, or lighting firecrackers, climbing a tree, fighting a beaver, whatever, those are dangers on the level that we evolved to deal with.

Just like in the analogy with sterility, I’m fine with making environments free of bio weapons and meat industry goop full of mega bacteria and the kinds of biological threats that civilization itself creates. But getting rid of the base load of strange micro critters, that yes do pose some danger of sickness and even death, turns out to be taking it too far because it makes people more likely to have allergies and autoimmune problems.

Explosives are actually predictable. Way more predictable than people or animals, for instance. A person can protect themselves when handling explosives by being careful.

But these are just my theories about what the mechanism might be. At the higher level, by analogy it’s just there’s a system we have, that has evolved to protect us, but it’s evolved to learn from encounters with the thing it’s designed to protect us from. If you give ir no encounters, it goes haywire.

I don’t know what the mechanism might be exactly, but I worry our ability to navigate danger might itself be a system that can go haywire.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 5 months ago

Ok, I follow. I think we’re already there. Plenty of people are doing stupid things that are dangerous, either out of ignorance, lack of forethought, or nowadays for clout on social media. Pretty sure people have been doing dumb things for a long time, but they were more lethal in the past.

[–] Lightor 1 points 5 months ago

Not a natural state? Lots of things humans do aren't natural. Hell you could say playing with explosives is not a natural state. Danger in the wild makes you survive and balance needs vs risk. There is no need to play with explosives and if you need to see a kid lose a few fingers to know that then you'll face many problems in life. I mean should we let kids play in traffic to learn about danger?

[–] Smoogs 1 points 5 months ago

sterile environments make people allergic.

Where’s your science in this?

No allergist or dermatologist I ever met would ever make that claim.

The results are from patient to patient. There’s a whole subset of sensitivities to chemical makeup of the food and another set of sensitivities to the environment the food was grown in. Food and products have dramatically changed and this also creates a lot of reactions. Mass production of food introduced a lot of irritants which we notice now. Then you have a subset of sensitivities that are entirely based on changes in the body with hormone. And then there’s family history.

There isn’t a standard answer with allergies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay so we generate literal tons of waste. There are also literally hundreds of millions of us, so “tons of waste” would happen if we gathered to eat brownies distributed on napkins.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well that makes it all right then, doesn’t it?

[–] Lightor 1 points 5 months ago

Yep, typical what-about-ism