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[–] go_go_gadget 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

wants to effect left-wing ideology using authoritarian methods

Odd. I'm getting called a tankie because I just won't vote for Biden (or Trump). Someone must have gotten confused.

[–] TokenBoomer 9 points 2 days ago

By their reasoning:

No vote for Biden is a vote for Trump. Trump is fascist and authoritarian. Tankies are authoritarians. Therefore, you are a tankie. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lots of people say lots of silly things, nonetheless Trump is worse for the proletariat than Biden, and turning your nose up at the lesser evil endangers real people when the greater evil wins. You don't have to vote for the greater evil to help tip the scales in their favor. Accelerationism is authoritarianism with extra steps and no one in the driver's seat.

[–] go_go_gadget -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Biden doesn't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor. Biden's family doesn't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor. Biden's campaign doesn't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor. The DNC leadership doesn't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor. People who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries don't accept blame for tipping the scale in their favor. Moderaters and political analysts don't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor. People like you letting those people get away with that and focusing on telling me to be quiet and vote for Biden don't accept blame for tipping the scales in their favor.

I don't accept blame for it either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IDGAF who does or doesn't accept blame for whatever. I care about material results; my future, my family's future, my neighbors' futures, the future of the people who live in this country, and this world. IDGAF how ideologically pure a politician is, or who's wrong or right, or who gets away with whatever. I care about the people who are going to suffer if the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists keep establishing their foothold judge by judge, bill by bill, ruling by ruling.

This isn't grade school, this isn't a game, this isn't about fair. There are real stakes here. People will die. I'm not heartless enough to play the blame game with lives on the line. I'm voting harm reduction because I'm an adult and I play the hand I'm dealt. Righteously losing doesn't help anything but ego-centric deontology.

[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I care about material results; my future, my family’s future, my neighbors’ futures, the future of the people who live in this country, and this world.

Same bud. And Biden was never the guy who was going to do that for me. Where were you during the 2020 primaries? Where have you been ever since?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He's actually been surprisingly effective. Your distaste doesn't negate his numerous policy accomplishments with tangible benefits.

Even disregarding that, even if he was ineffective, he's not trying to concentrate power into the hands of Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists, so he is by default the superior choice to those who are. The material results that I care about, that reasonable adults care about, revolve around stopping the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists. Or are you on their side?

[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He’s actually been surprisingly effective

If you like him then you get him re-elected. I won't be voting for him a second time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

The material results that I care about, that reasonable adults care about, revolve around stopping the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists. Or are you on their side?

So the answer to that question is "Yes". Got it. I'm not surprised.