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Trump threatens to cut off aid to Ukraine 'prior to taking the White House as president-elect'
(kyivindependent.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
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The real problem is when these MAGA morons get smarter and more extreme.
The MAGA morons are the tools used by the far right leaders to get their way. Many of them are just terrified due to an intense ignorance and if they got smarter we might actually be doing ok.
Or we could remove the financial incentives in our political system. That'd be a good start and a lot more likely to happen than making people smarter. Let's not try to change people, let's instead stop monied interests' ability to mass manipulate people with fear into voting against their own interests.
Well that’s the thing, the base would be smart enough to elect those who would actually want to do those things instead of the current gaggle of goons.
Wouldn’t they just stop being maga morons?
No. They won't. The United States has always had a taste for authoritarianism. There's a burning desire for people that serve in these not so United States, and everyone thinks that they deserve to be served and don't give two shits about their fellow Americans. It isn't stupidity that guides these people. It's assholery, and the desire to lord it over other people. Don't ascribe to incompetence what should be ascribed properly to malice where MAGA is concerned.
Depends on how they progress. Smart doesn't necessarily mean good.
They all act like morons, but especially for the ones on top, it becomes a question of whether they came into power by being just the right type of stupid; or are they just good at behaving like an idiot because that's an effective way to manipulate actual idiots?
We have a tendency to be dismissive of them as -just- being stupid, but every time we give them the village-idiot pass, we're making their strategy that much more successful.
Look at the harm Trump has caused - he wouldn't get away with a tenth of what he's done if he acted competently.
...honestly it's basically the Darth Jar Jar fan theory - you can get away with doing all kinds of evil if you just act like an idiot while you do it.