If you're in Germany, a car is the best weapon to get away with murder since car drivers (especially the elderly) usually get only a slap on the wrist if they injure or even kill someone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised, if even in america cars kill more people than guns.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty similar in the US - roughly 40,000 annual car and gun deaths each. American roads are also less safe than most peer countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

14.5k in Russia... This is huge. I feel sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The rate should be about the same since Russia's population is less than half of the US's

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Normalized over population deaths ratio in Russia seems to be about 0.00010069444, while in USA 0.00012309309, which is about 22% more than in Russia.

Some could say "look, how good living in Russia is", but we all have to keep in mind that for example in Finland only 210 people died in one year as result of traffic accident, which is 0.00003779697 normalized. This is slightly more than third compared to Russia. In other words normalized death ratio from accidents in Russia is 266% more than in Finland.

[–] dejected_warp_core 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, but it's actually pretty close.

Cars: 40,990 people The agency estimates that 40,990 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes in 2023, a decrease of about 3.6% as compared to 42,514 fatalities reported to have occurred in 2022. The fourth quarter of 2023 represents the seventh consecutive quarterly decline in fatalities beginning with the second quarter of 2022.Apr 1, 2024

NHTSA Releases 2022 Traffic Deaths, 2023 Early Estimates

Guns: 42,967 people In 2023, 42,967 people died in the United States from gun related injuries. Between 2010 and 2020, gun-related deaths rose by roughly 43%. Every day, on average, at least 327 people are shot across the US, including roughly. 115,552 are shot.Feb 14, 2024

Nearly 43000 died from gun violence in 2023: How to tell the ...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Do crashes include running over pedestrians? Majority of deaths are pedestrians. Unless USSA is more backwards than I expected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also you linked same source twice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Source seems to be https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2022-traffic-deaths-2023-early-estimates#:~:text=The%20agency%20estimates%20that%2040%2C990,the%20second%20quarter%20of%202022.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And after reading report for 2022 it seems this includes killed pedestriands. And pedestrians get American-reversaled and for some reason appear to die less, which is very wierd.

Maybe pedestrian death only counted if pedestrian dies right there right then, but not later somewhere else? Maybe a lot of deaths were not included for some other reason? Maybe this report only includes deaths on highways, but not on roads in cities? Or maybe America so backwards country, that indeed everyone is in car and die in car?

Reading more...

Edit: fun fact, in rural areas more people die in "light trucks" AKA Stupid Ugly Vehicles that in passenger cars.

EDIT2: this report seems to include at least some roads in "urban area". Not sure about all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

i thought america was bad with car laws.

Apparently not.