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[–] [email protected] 135 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fuck trump and all but he literally did not say he would stop all electric car sales. He said he would stop all sales of Chinese brand cars manufactured in Mexico.

Source: The speech linked by the NYT article that Gizmodo/jalopnik references

https://www.youtube.com/live/XGJwCUHVgc0?si=O_c0epZoYWO1Owf0

The “you’re not going to be able to sell those cars” line is about 32 minutes in.

[–] Veedem 43 points 7 months ago

Thank you.

That Gizmodo article is HORRIBLY written up and there never actually mention the quote outside of the blurb beneath the headline so the lack of context had me questioning them. Pretty shitty reporting.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Articles like this are exactly how fake news gets traction.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's so damn annoying. I'm not sure how algorithms are supposed to suppress BS alarmist articles without being accused of bias either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is a great article to fact check the crapnout of, but because people like the "facts" it gets a pass.

[–] hark 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which is funny since Biden has the exact same position, which is why he expanded on Trump's trade war with China by upping tariffs on EVs to 100%. I highly doubt Biden would let China do the Mexico workaround either, if he can help it.

[–] takeda 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Did China even produce anything in Mexico, my understanding is that they want to produce everything internally.

[–] ZILtoid1991 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're trying to bring the European side of manufacturing to Hungary. We Hungarians are unhappy about it, because they get subsidized like hell.

[–] takeda 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's with that?

I recently read an article that he is allowing to install China's face tracking cameras in Hungary. I first thought that he was installing it for his own benefit and just got the technology from China, but this actually will be used by China.

While I might grasp his unexplained love for putin, this looks like just selling your country to foreign autocracies.

[–] ZILtoid1991 2 points 7 months ago

Well, a lot of boomers think office work isn't real work, a deadweight on the economy, and will turn kids gay thus not making (great-)grandchildren due to not getting dirty and having an air conditioner. The previous system somehow reproduced the toxic Calvinist work morals of capitalist countries, and not only the politically illiterate calls this kind of behavior "communism", but there's a very big number of the pensioners, whose votes can be bought by promising more underpaid manual labor to their (grand)children.

The camera thing might be him getting more and more afraid. He's losing popularity, and even if he crushes popular movements (often by "doomerism"), there are more and more popping up. If the AI bubble burst (which will cause a financial recession) or some of his allies will fall, he can also fall too. He's a paranoid maniac that goes everywhere in a bullet vest. He just loves his fellow autocrats, especially as he can work together with them.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 2 points 7 months ago

BYD and at least one or two others are/will be.

[–] takeda 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't those already banned by Biden?

[–] AA5B 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

100% tariff on cars imported from China makes them unsellable. However there’s a free trade agreement with Mexico so GM and Ford can use the cheap labor.

Many people have pointed that out as a loophole and BYD has announced a factory on Mexico. If we wanted to block importing Chinese cars from Mexico, while still allowing GMs and Fords, we’d have to take additional action. This just means both candidates have vowed they would

[–] takeda 1 points 7 months ago

As you said, this would require an additional action.

And to me it looks like it can't be done by EO and would have to be a legislation. And during trump very few legislations got passed even when they had a majority.

The restrictions on sale through Mexico can be implemented when it actually is a problem.

I found an article where they announced a factory in Mexico, but it first have to be built. The news also appears to be before the sanctions were announced. So if that factory was meant for US market this could change their plans, as adding 100% sanctions signals determination to plugin other loopholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They are just trying to one-up each other as always. Children in old-man bodies.