this post was submitted on 23 May 2024
488 points (97.3% liked)

196

16281 readers
2185 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] thedirtyknapkin 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

privately held can be bad, but they aren't inherently so. it's possible for a decent person/idealogue to have a decent product that people want to buy at a fair price. they're just very easily beat out by bigger brands most of the time because they aren't ruthless like the big ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Nailed it.

There's a legal obligation to extract the most value for your shareholders. This doesn't apply in sole proprietorships or partnerships with a more centralized ownership, where there's the realistic potential to have a conversation with one of the others (or internally) and say things like "let's do y, because doing x would be fucked, even if it made me more money."

In a publicly traded company, you can literally be sued by your shareholders for not putting profits first. This puts a background pressure that slants the odds in favor of enshitification. And whole industries are based on utilizing slightly uneven odds, so that has a real impact.

As you said - without being publicly traded, people can still be evil, but they aren't nearly as likely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You do have privately held companies that are owned/run by people who aren't complete shitbags until the ownership changes & it all go's to hell.