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They’re fast. Pedestrians are furious: ‘fat’ ebikes divide Australian beach suburbs
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 20 May 2024
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It's a little sad that we need to actually say this, but:
Don't be an asshole or you will be permanently banned.
Respectful debate is totally OK, criticizing a product is fine, but being verbally abusive will not be tolerated.
Focus on discussing the idea, not attacking the person.
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Reminder to everyone: Don't ride like an asshole or you might get ebikes banned in your area (also, just not being an asshole is its own reward)
Imagine driving like an asshole got cars banned in your area.
Time for Big E-bike to start an anti-"jaydriving" propaganda campaign.
Weird, first time I'm hearing the term "jaydriving". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-driver
Worse, they'll probably make people jump through unnecessary hoops (licensing, testing and so on) for people to use them and it will become out of reach for most, due to affordability.
I mean it would be great to have people educated on rules etc of course, but imho that should be something done as free public service.
I think you missed my point. The joke is the idea that one asshole driver spoils the ability to drive for anyone else, shitting on the statement "Don’t ride like an asshole or you might get ebikes banned in your area". Replace with "Don’t drive like an asshole or you might get cars banned in your area" with the same logic. Would never happen, because fuck this system and our infrastructure strictly designed to benefit oil companies.
Oh I got your point, which exactly leads to the fact that it would just become another enterprise to capitalise on, instead of banning anything, using shitty behaviour as an excuse to do so.
Edit; i.e. if you wanna ride a bike, well us politicians have decided that you need to do xyz first, but don't worry, my buddy offers x, my 2nd cousin does y and my wife actually has offers on z ATM. Don't look at us, it's because Billy over there didn't have his helmet on last year cu he's an asshole.
Certainly we would need better public transit when cars are banned from my entire state.
Until people misbehave sufficiently to get the public transit banned
Everyone walks or rides a bicycle, I love it!
There was a phase of idiots riding the rental scooters irresponsibly in my city when they appeared.
As they've become normal, tho, the novelty has worn off and you mostly just see people calmly getting from point A to B, and parking them in sane spots. Ebikes have been more gradual so there's not been a wave of dangerous behavior at all.
I ride a high performance electric skateboard, myself, and though I like my fun, I make it a point to never put pedestrians in danger. I do unintentionally scare people at times, as they don't expect a dude on a skateboard to be capable of stopping on a dime when needed.
Douchebags seem to push the limits on new things like this, at first, but at least in my city, courteous rider etiquette has developed.
Lucky you. Here, the idiot e-scooter riders have become the new "normal" to the point of cities just banning them.
I think it was a combination of things. The city didn't ban them outright in response to the initial problems, in fact they set up no-go and slow zones within which the scooter companies have to disable or slow down the scooters.
Some kids that ran into a baby stroller (no one was hurt) were made a huge example of in the local news, the family fined and shamed to hell and back. The problem is the people, not the vehicles.
The city was already built for mixed modes of travel, so there were already bicycle "highways" that are perfectly suited for these. As my city was already extremely favourable to multiple layered transit systems, instead of getting rid of a new one, a lot of work was put into solving the problems around it. And traffic separation has only gotten better in the years since.
I also think people here were just more courteous around something like this to start with. A city-run public rental bike system had been a thing for a couple of years already, so the concept was somewhat familiar. Though they aren't electric, and have to be parked at special racks.
The most recent development is that some car parking is being converted into scooter parking around common destinations, and the scooter companies now give you a discount for parking in them, alleviating the big disorganised piles of scooters around transit hubs, supermarkets, etc.
The rental fees have gone up to much more realistic amounts, so people don't use them every chance they get anymore. And when they do they try to get where they are going in a timely manner so as to not waste money on a minute more than they have to.
And I think more are committing to using them long term using the monthly passes. I've been seeing more and more people carrying helmets, for when they use a rental scooter. They've legit become a utility, integrated into people's routines, instead of sporadic entertainment for drunken idiots.
At least one company has instituted a system where you can report badly parked scooters, which on repeat offenses apparently results in some kind of consequences for the person who last used it.
During the second summer the city limited their speed to 15kph across the board for a month, IIRC, which I bet took the fun out of them for people joyriding them. There was also a "curfew" for a while where they would stop working after 9pm, because people were using them to ride home while drunk.
The limit is back up to 20kph, I'm on my fourth summer of skateboarding, and no-one seems to be a dick about it anymore. Electric personal vehicles are just one of the things you see in the city now, and they are used by everyone. It's been especially nice to see more of the elderly out and about on pedal assist bikes.
But introducing them definitely came with some bumps.
I love being able to report badly parked scooters. In my city it’s unfortunate that it’s the scooter companies that park them badly like putting them in the bike rack outside a bike shop
I hate it when they do this, happens all the time in my city after big events.
PSA: If you rent a bike or scooter, don't put it in the bike rack. The rack is for people who need to lock their bike up. You can leave your rental scooters or bike next to the bike rack, in another out of the way place, or best of all in a rental dock so it can recharge, but there's no reason to use the rack if it's not your bike and you don't need to lock it up.
Oof. Yeah that wouldn't fly here. Pretty sure they can only deploy them at spots decided by the city.
I think all the models here now have field-swappable batteries, so they only get taken in for maintenance. Still I've only ever seen recently deployed neat lines of them in designated scooter parking areas.
Well, try getting this through the assholes thick skulls. Good luck with that.
So that's just the common fucking reaction to everything now, eh? BAN IT!
Ebikes are here to stay old fart
k, cool.
Don't ride like an asshole though, regardless of what you're riding.