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I know this won't be popular, but it's for a few reasons:
I speak strongly about this because I think we are doing great damage to mental health to repeatedly claim it's a mental disorder to have a completely normal and common biological attraction.
But don't get me wrong, I 100% support protecting minors from predators. I agree these laws should exist, I just wish people would stop pretending that there is something wrong with the attraction itself.
I don't really have an issue with a 16 year old dating an 18 year old. They're close enough that the age thing wouldn't be an issue, but 17 and 38 is a bit different.
I also don't really have an issue with adults being attracted to... people below the legal limit so long as they don't act on it. It's very difficult to have this discussion when most people can't grasp that desires don't always lead to actions and have problems separating fiction from reality. There are people with rape fetishes that find healthy, consensual ways to simulate the act, something that the mainstream can't really cope with.
But that's not really the discussion we're having. Jerry Seinfeld had a teenaged girlfriend when he was 38. Celebrities using their positions of power isn't acceptable.
Romeo and Juliet laws show we absolutely have some tolerance for adults dating teenagers. And nobody I know is saying a 17 year old can't be sexually attractive. The problem is they essentially unarmed against the average 30 year old. And I'd much rather draw a line somewhere than the actual puritanical practice of marrying teenagers to a 40 year old man who happens to have the most money available.
Yep. Picking the bear.
Imagine responding to an actual thought out, reasoned argument with some braindead thought terminating snark. Saves the effort of trying to actually engage in conversation or uncomfortable thoughts I guess but that's about it.
Still picking the bear. Your reply, and all the other salty misogynist replies are exactly why.
Ok, have fun I guess? Congratulations? Not sure what response you expect.
I didn't ask
Posting publicly on the internet means people can respond to you.
Responding to a relatively well-formed statement and rationalized statement with a 1 sentence meme-response is lazy and braindead and contributes nothing but go off if it makes you feel like you're doing something I guess. Certainly easier than actually engaging with a topic.
I am engaging, which is why I am picking the bear.
To me, it's a distraction. I think it's legal in just about every state for someone to marry a child under the age of 15 with the approval of their parents.
It's not. Child marriage is illegal, even with parental consent, in 12 states. Proud Jersey boy here. If you don't live in a blue state that isn't one of the 12, start shaming your politicians.
The issue seems to be that he was dating and fucking them.
This.
I can guarantee you that all those puritan ass hats have the same feelings as everyone else but will "ooohhh no no no no, not me, I would never think THAT!" when asked.
Of course we should protect minors, that's why we have these laws in the first place. However, 18 is an arbitrary age and I've seen girls at 15 being more grownup and responsible for their own actions than certain 25 year olds who clearly still needed protection. Just saying that a relationship is abuse because the girl is 18 and the guy is 30 is honestly stupid.
In the end, it's a consensual relationship, it's legal, and it may fail or not, like any relationship.
On a relevant side note: I've seen many relationships that are actually abusive, instead of "the girl being young". Hell, I've been in one where the woman would beat the crap out of me. I'm a 2 meter (6 feet) big guy with black belt on karate, so I MUST be the bad one here, no?
That day that I got pushed down the stairs, mangled my leg, limped outside, called the police, waited for them to arrive, she came out with a bloody lip out of nowhere. Police were smart and kind enough to explain to me that they understood what happened but that next time they would HAVE to arrest be, because girl is girl and I is big bad man.
Then you didn't observe the 15 year old's behavior long enough.
Yeah you didn't read. My point was not "hey let's date 15 year olds", my point was that there are enough 25 year olds out there that are less mature and responsible than certain 15 year olds.
Because they already have sexual trauma. That is never a good sign - as in, that is a sign that people who work with youth are taught to look for.
The ability of a teenage girl to put on makeup and look “mature” does not indicate that they are emotionally developed enough to be independent or in a relationship with an adult man.