Noedel

Why is it good they were ruthless? Did you live here? Do you know what happened? Is it based on science to force mandates on a population that's already 95 percent vaccinated? Because it was definitely not what our Ministry of Health recommended...

At the time the mandates were active, Auckland was 95 percent vaxed and rife with covid. At that stage, was it worth it telling five percent of the population they were not allowed to be anywhere but in a supermarket? Was it reasonable taking their jobs away from them? Did the costs outweigh the benefits?

The government's covid response did a lot of damage to NZ. My wife is a therapist and works with victims of sexual and domestic abuse. Turns out that locking people up with their abusers for months on end is... Very bad for people too.

Vax mandates lead to a huge division in society, including racial and political divides. It will take a long time to recover from that.

I'm not saying all lockdowns are bad, I'm not saying vaccines are bad, I'm saying there's a cost benefit analysis to be made, and NZ definitely went above and beyond what was reasonable. Towards the end, cabinet kept going against ministry recommendations. Their covid response had become a political tool, not a response based on reason.

Good job on trying, but it seems like there's little room for nuanced debate here because "antivaxer stupid"

I'm also assuming a lot of people here don't realise Auckland spent four months locked in their houses while they threatened to keep us there forever unless the entire fucking country had 90 percent vaccination rates... and they pursued the mandates even at those high vaccination rates. Against the MoH advice...

My wife is a therapist and she is still dealing with the fallout of those lockdowns.

I saw people lose their jobs and get excluded from society in a city that was 95 percent vaccinated, while somehow all my vaccinated friends and myself were sick of covid.

The level of punitive damage done by the mandates was beyond scientific reason. It also went against ministry of health recommendations.

I moved to NZ about 7 years ago and lived through this. I supported the earlier lockdowns and got the vaccine before it became mandated.

Having said that, the mandates that the government pursued were absolutely ruthless, and put in place at a time where efficacy was already reduced due to new variants. It did a lot of harm to society, and we still live with those consequences today.