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I love the original Hotline Miami but I'm not a big fan of the boss fights like the ones in Neighbors (Biker) and Deadline (Van Driver). I find it kind of slows down the game and limits the strategies you can take.


Another example would be Fallout 3. I find the tutorial section in Vault 101 can feel a bit long after a fifth run but maybe that's because I was spoiled by Fallout New Vegas' ability to run off in your own direction immediately after leaving Doc Mitchell's house.

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[–] Son_of_dad 33 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I generally like playing the assassin's Creed series, but since assassin's Creed 3 or so, the future storyline is just lame and every time I get pulled out of the animus I groan audibly, because I now have to do some stupid quest outside of the main story.

The thing is originally I was hyped that eventually Desmond would become a master assassin and I would get to play a futuristic, open world, watch dogs style assassin's Creed. It's clear that they fucked that up, so now I just skip all the out of animus storylines when I can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Aw man, yeah, the ending of AC1 where Desmond uses the eagle vision and discovers the code on the wall, it gave me chills at the time. I was so hyped for where they were going to go with the story and for a modern day assassin arc.

But I guess they realised they had near infinite points of history they could stretch the franchise out to, and keeping the Desmond story going was only going to limit their cash cow's potential.

I checked out half way through the Ezio arc that seemed to go on forever and only went back because everyone was raving about Black Flag. By then the modern day story made zero sense to me and was just a slog.

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[–] SlothMama 7 points 11 months ago

I honestly believed this was going to be where things went as well, the fact that it didn't and they chose an honestly bizarre way to handle it really took the joy out of the present day stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the most popular mods for Dragon Age: Origins is a mod that lets you skip the fade section of the game. So that's a pretty good indication of how people feel about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah the fade is cool in theory but it’s poorly implemented there imo.

In Pathfinder wrath of the righteous, alushynirra is very similar to the fade and it is a much better - albeit buggy as fuck - implementation.

[–] slazer2au 32 points 11 months ago

Mass Effect 3.

Those damn dream sequences.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Dark souls. Everything after Anor Londo is a bit of a slog. Once you've beat Snorlax and Pikachu the game gets a bit worse in terms of quality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nonsense, bed of chaos was the highlight of the series!

/s

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Half-life’s Xen levels are particularly infamous for this sort of thing. There’s a reason the Black Mesa remake overhauled it.

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[–] CodexArcanum 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've seen that damn cart ride in Skyrim so many times that Ralof and Hadvar are basically family. I consider the alternative start mod an absolute requirement now.

I love Thief and Thief 2 but there are a few levels in there (Thieve's Guild, Trace the Courier) that are pretty dull and uninteresting to replay. They're the songs you're still tempted to skip on otherwise perfect albums.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I'm nostalgic for that cart ride, but I still use the alternate start mod because the cart ride is one of the buggiest parts of the game, and letting my mods load prior to viewing the cart ride avoids a lot of problems

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[–] Moghul 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't replay games often, but I did several playthroughs of Elden Ring when it came out. It's a 10/10 game and nothing beats playing it for the first time blind.

However, the mountaintop of the giants is fairly lacking and the boss rush at the end leading up to Radagon and the Elden Beast feels rushed. I also prefer the Godfrey fight over the final boss.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Portal 2. I love the game. But when it goes all the way down and you have to fight your way through that underground rubble...

[–] konalt 16 points 11 months ago

I always get excited when I hear Cave's lemon speech. Mostly because it's a good speech, but also because it means the end of the underground section

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[–] molme 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

In Marvel's Spider-man, those damn Mary Jane sequences. Apart from that I love that game, still waiting for a discount to buy Spider-man 2.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Good news for the sequel, they still have MJ stealth sections but they aren't instant fail if you're spotted

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The unskippable toturial. Every game that has one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

toturial

Love the typo. It seems a merge between "tutorial" and "torture", which in many cases is.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Im a pokemon "gen unner" kinda gal, so take what I say with a grain of salt, I like collecting weird creatures exploring all the funky stuff I can find but...

I hate grinding and actually fighting random battles.

The gyms and elite 4 are cool tho

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying for a while now that we're just beyond the world of grindy, random encounters. The early games weren't fun because of the dozens of zubats we had to deal with. They weren't even "harder" for these reasons, despite the absurd opinions you'll stumble across online. Remembering to stock up on repels isn't really a skill check. Completing the set challenges that you are aware of and planning around then is fun. Having to smash "A" through random encounters and opening the menu to hit a Fresh Water every once in a while is not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah seriously but when you bring it up, may arceus have mercy on your soul

[–] Sylvartas 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Imo that part was much worse in gen 1. When they started adding multi exp and all that stuff it made grinding much less annoying

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

GTA: San Andreas, OG Loc mission. I'm much better at it after all these years, but I still run into at least 5 walls and fall off my bike every time. It's way harder than the train mission.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Every mandatory stealth section in a non-stealth game. Spider-Man, several Zelda games, Metroid Dread, Jedi Knight II.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Ghost of Tsushima is one of my comfort games, but I hate replaying the end of act 2 because of the emotional toll.

In Devil May Cry 3, the Nevan boss fight and backtracking through the rearranged tower after it's activated are just tedious.

Another user said the Fade section of Dragon Age: Origins, but I'll go with the Deep Roads. Everything you learn in that section is fascinating, but man, I just want to see the sky again and you're down there for a while.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Terraria. I love Terraria but the start is a chore to get through with how slow everything is. It's still not enough to stop me of course, the game is just too much fun

[–] demekanized 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There was a time when the beginning was all we had, and we loved it damnit!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How I wish I could play it for the first time again, beating the wall of flesh for the first time and discovering that the entire game just shifted to whole new level was amazing. Then, after beating moon lord a couple of times, discovering modded Terraria. There are no words to describe the joy this game has brought me

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ooof, you just gave me flashbacks to the original Deadspace turret section. One of my favourite games but damn if that section wasn't an awful slog.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I love watching Let's Plays of Telltale games and similar games like Life is Strange. But usually, the first episode is hardest to watch through, because in these types of games, the first episode also serves as a very drawn out tutorial and has the most of the lore dumps.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Generally the escort missions or forced on rails/stealth sections in open world games where you have specific builds and play styles

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Fighting street thugs in the Yakuza games. The man can't even walk peacefully for 2 mins.

The problem is even worse with Yakuza 7. The RPG fighting mechanic makes me feel like fighting is a chore. To add to that, you cant even run away from these fights.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The intro of fo3 - fo4 - tes5 - tes4. I have saves just after the intro because it's 30min - 1h just to start playing the damned game

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

KOTOR 1. Taris is cool but let's be honest. I play that game because I like playing a Jedi. I've also played it from start to finish at least 20 times.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The main thing that keeps me from reinstalling and trying to play Skyrim again is the thought of having to do Bleak Falls Barrow for the billionth time. Yeah, I could mod around it, but I just don't care enough to figure out how for a game I pretty much always play through the first few hours of and then drop for another three years anyways.

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[–] spittingimage 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Subnautica's great, but there's a part of the game where you have to manoeuvre a dummy thicc sub through an underwater cavern that's only just wide enough in every direction to make it. There's no useful outside view and you're trying to navigate by sonar and proximity sensors. You're almost sure to scrape off some hull plating and need to repair it. And it's slooooow because rushing it damages the sub faster than you can unmangle it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I call Nier:Automata "the best game I will never play again" and it's because of 9S' combat.

What were they thinking? No one cares about 9S anyway! But he's your playable for well more than what should only have been his one-third the game, and his combat is AWFUL! If I wanted to play Asteroids I'd play Asteroids. You have two other playable characters, both of which chop up robots with giant swords! THAT'S what people are here for, know your audience!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

For me all of nier automata's gameplay was terrible, and the story too but that is something I know not many people will agree with me on

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I love Cyberpunk 2077, probably one of my favourite games ever and I've beaten it something like a dozen times. I still hate talking with Evelyn and doing the heist. It's such a slog once you know what to expect. At least they made the BD tutorial skippable.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Crashumbc 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk - the learning to use the deck thing and a couple other spots with crazy looking cut scenes you can't skip or save during. It's like you HAVE TO PLAN to be able to play the next 15 minutes without stopping.

Witcher 3, same issue.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Weirdfish 6 points 11 months ago

I've only done it from the depths like twice. Master key or valley of the drakes all the way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

KOTOR 2 - Has quite a few pain points for me, usually when they make you swap characters, but by far the longest stretch that makes me reconsider replaying is the surface of Telos. It's just a bore until you reach Atris and feels like it takes forever.

I actually like Pergaus outside of the T3 part though, which I guess makes me a KOTOR 2 heretic. The atmosphere and mystery is just fantastically done.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I loved peragus the first time through, but the more I replay it the more it's just having to run around to all the terminals in the right order while being slowed down with the easy but tedious fights, esp with not a str or dex build and harder difficulty.

And that conversation with the hk is so annoying, like I know you'll tell me the password, but it always takes me so much time to find the dialog path to get him to say it in the voice for some reason.

I really like the character swap sections though, especially the onderon ones. It adds more difficulty and makes party builds matter. Otherwise I feel like I just blow through everything with mc even solo

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Half Life: Xen. All of it. I hate it

Super Mario RPG: Having to jump up to nimbus land fucking sucks

Chrono Trigger: First time going to the Dark Ages before Kajar/Enhasa..just boring really

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

cyberpunk2077. running through the fuzzy bd like space to find johnny and then playing as him.

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