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[–] FlyingSquid 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Excuse me, but it recognizes all of us cephalopods as sentient beings, thank you very much.

Too bad this 'bnnbreaking.com' is literally the only source for this story.

[–] Got_Bent 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ok I had to Google this because I've never seen anything on squid intelligence. Octopus and cuttlefish, yes. Looks like squid got more going on than I'd previously thought.

I still need some convincing on decapods though.

Also, do you like own Lemmy or something? You're EVERYWHERE.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's not surprising he gets around. He can fly after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I loved him in Baldur's Gate 3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lemmy is free software running on federated servers. no one owns lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I own Lemmy all the time

[–] markstos 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah, HN flagged and removed the link.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a legal definition of sentience?

[–] Heavybell 3 points 11 months ago

Dunno about legal, but I'm pretty sure the scientific bar for sentience is pretty low. You basically just have to have senses (e g. hearing, sight, etc) and react to stimuli to be sentient.

[–] spittingimage 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

New Zealander here. I've heard nothing of this and it's been a slow news week.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Now that the bird of the century elections are over, I guess it's hard to get excited about anything else the rest of the year.

[–] RegalPotoo 6 points 11 months ago

Also a New Zealander, looks like the "news" site is confusing New Zealand and the UK?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Welfare_(Sentience)_Act_2022

[–] 9point6 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~I mean the tweet says in the UK... Not sure where OP got new Zealand from~~

Looks like it's bullshit

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doing this to any animal—regardless of sentience—is straight fucked up. Nothing says selfish like torturing an animal to death so it tastes better. Make it quick.

[–] graymess 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm vegetarian, so I'm not defending this at all, but as I understand it, boiling kind of is the best way to kill a lobster quickly. A friend of mine had a roommate who thought otherwise and tried to decapitate one for dinner. I don't know their biology well, but there's something about lobsters' brains spanning the length of their body, so it wouldn't die. Just horribly suffering and bleeding everywhere with a knife through its body. Tossing it in boiling water should near instantly kill it. All the water inside their shell steams immediately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately your roommate seems to have been using improper technique, this video shows how to properly do it.

As far as I know this is considered much less painful than boiling.

[–] TastyWheat 6 points 11 months ago

Strange thumbnail. The actual title of the article says New Zealand too. Those wacky Pakistani journos!

[–] j4k3 4 points 11 months ago

BNN - a Fox News AI experiment /s

[–] oDDmON 2 points 11 months ago

Not the Onion?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I mean, yeah. The bar for sentience is very low. Sapience is a lot higher of a bar.
People have shown that plants can be sentient after all (they can feel pain at least, IIRC). So it makes sense that almost any multicellular organism above a certain amount of cells would be sentient.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago

Okay. So, put them to sleep then boil them. I am not missing out on my water scorpion food.