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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (45 children)

People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.

For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups

Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.

Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.

"No, we didn't want to take it, we refused. We said we didn't want it," the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.

"This happened to many, many other women," Reuben said.

Source: Ethiopian women in Israel 'given contraceptive without consent' - Guardian

[–] Stamets 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you please edit your comment to reflect your source on this? For the record, I know the source and it's just straight up factual with Israel outright confirming it happened, but yeah. Just to help prevent some reports. Thanks <3

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Certainly, I’ll hop on my pc and do it shortly.

[–] Stamets 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks buddy. No worries no hurries.

[–] stevehobbes 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably should replace the word sterilized with given contraceptives.

They’re wildly different things.

[–] Stamets 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am not the person who made the comment. If you have an issue with wording of it, take it up with the commenter. As it stands, it does not violate any community rules.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Thousands of Ethiopian Jews were evacuated into Israel through covert operations by Israel.

Assessing Claims That Ethiopian Immigrants to Israel Received Birth Control Shots Without Consent

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[–] Son_of_dad 21 points 1 year ago

Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she's not very religious or political. I'm Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel's baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

nyet n yahoo doesn't care about them though.

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[–] Mango 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I actually did not know this. Please don't eat me alive.

[–] FlickOfTheBean 4 points 1 year ago

As long as you're not being a douchebag, or, if you were, you immediately stop being a douchebag, I don't think anyone has basis to eat you alive.

[–] wafflez 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Who are we going to eat instead? Can I come to your place?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Ok this is a legit question, not trying to troll or bait... Are there African or east Asian jews? Like Jewish communities in Ghana or Thailand for example?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup.
Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, and tiny communties of Chinese and Japanese Jews.

Edit: There are more, but those are mostly Jews that ran away / were expelled from other countries.
Like Jews in Thailand who fled Russia and Iran.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, I only hear of American, European or Middle East jews.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Indian Jews are also the only ones amongst Jewish communities who haven't faced any discrimination. Despite their presence in India for around 2,000 years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

First thing coming to mind are the Jews in Ethiopia.

[–] FUBAR 7 points 1 year ago
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[–] arcticbreakout 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ethnically or religiously?

[–] original2 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both. For example Ethiopian Jews

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It hasn't been disproved that Ethiopian Jews are ethnically Jewish.
A genetic study showed a possible genetic link.

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[–] mightyfoolish 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally, someone else who gets it. It's so weird that so many people think all Jews came from a single tribe at the edge of the desert. That's not how religions work...

[–] set_secret 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

even weirder that most people seem to identify Judaism as an ethnicity and not as a religion.

[–] splicerslicer 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because it's both? Jews can be both semites (ethnicity) and followers of Judaism (religion). Not all Jewish people are both. To make things more confusing, not all Jews are zionists, and not all Israelis are zionists.

[–] oshu 4 points 1 year ago

It depends on how you define the word ethnicity. Look it up and it can mean any group that shares a common religion, custom, language, etc.

Debating if something is a religion or an ethnicity is like debating if it is a Group or a Club or a population.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to know a black guy that was German by heritage

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a country, not an ethnicity or religion.

[–] dustyData 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The point still stands. All those categories are social constructs and we morally shouldn't make them dictate our behaviors towards others and we should treat all human beings with respect and dignity regardless of how they look or which group they belong to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

His family came from Germany several generations back.

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