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Kiteworks acquires ownCloud & Dracoon - Nextcloud (nextcloud.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/selfhosted

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[–] AbouBenAdhem 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone confused by “Nextcloud” in the title, it’s just the blog attribution—Nextcloud isn’t involved in the acquisition.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you!

[–] ikidd 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll be dead in a year. Most development moved to NC with the lead devs that forked it, Owncloud has been stagnant for years now. It's like using OpenOffice.

[+] TCB13 -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes but NC sucks.

[–] ikidd 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's sure specific enough to not be useful at all.

If you're talking about performance, it's usually because people aren't using redis and postgres with it. If that's too hard to set up manually, then use the AIO docker-compose mastercontainer, it's dead simple to install and update. Frankly, I'd recommend this for nearly anyone that isn't using it for an enterprise environment, and maybe even then too.

[–] HybridSarcasm 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When you mention Postgres, are you saying PG specifically is better, or are you implying that the default SQLite db is what really slows things down? I ask because I’m on mariadb with no complaints, but might switch if NC is faster on Postgres.

[–] ikidd 3 points 1 year ago

It is definitely faster on Postgres. I prefer MariaDB for ease of administration, but NC definitely benefits from postgres. Also, redis helps out a lot.

If you aren't on the AIO container, seriously consider it. It seems like that's the way they're going, and there's facility for addons (https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/tree/main/community-containers) that you can enable. I've put in a request for PGAdmin to be made a part of the community containers. I would do a PR and maintain that but I'm not familiar enough with their plugin setup to risk it.

[–] ikidd -1 points 1 year ago

BTW, could you do with another mod? Because besides you (and Ruud), the mod team is pretty much AFK.

[–] lemming741 2 points 1 year ago

But I like the Talk folder hanging out with me. He's a friend that will always be there for me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

A once useful software friendly to the open source/home lab community that got lured off trying to chase the fabled enterprise customer's riches, only to collapse under their own hubris. Always sad to see it happen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats a very biased article to link, coming from the main owncloud competitor.

But we did have the owncloud annoucement as a post some time ago, so maybe thats fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Didn't see it back then, just came across this on mastodon today. Sure they are competitors, given that nextcloud started as am owncloud fork, but they probably monitored ownclouds development closer than everyone else.

[–] Anonymouse 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This may be the push I need to migrate to Nextcloud. I'm struggling to identify my use cases, though and am wondering if all I really need is Syncthing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like it for all the apps. I got a cookbook app, forms app, rss feeder app, and more. It also lers me share a link to a file easily too. I also use syncthing, mostly since I sync more data than my VPS serving nextcloud can store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use both and rarely ever make use of file storage on nextcloud. Syncthing is awesome software.

[–] CodeGameEat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://central.owncloud.org/t/owncloud-joining-forces-with-kiteworks/45975

[–] CodeGameEat 13 points 1 year ago

So at least they are saying owncloud and ocis will still be maintained and keep their apache licenses... Still, acquisition of open source software is always a bit scary.

[–] deepdive 5 points 1 year ago

As long as they continue to maintain the github repository and keep it free without any hidden ads/spyware or restrictions, I will continue to use their service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Perhaps not a great surprise? Both ownCloud and Nextcloud have catered more and more to enterprise clients so it might be expected that an enterprise cloud provider would be interested in acquiring one or other. Apparently ownCloud software will remain licensed under an Apache license but it still sounds ominous.