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"My brother killed himself after self-medicating with alcohol for a decade in order to cope with horrific systemic social ills. So instead of fixing those, we need to make it harder to self-medicate. He probably would have just killed himself sooner. But at least he wouldn't have been a drunk for 10 years!"
Alcohol isn't self medication though...it's a coping mechanism and furthers depression. But yes, this section. Also caught my eye while skimming
I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree with your distinction. But it bears pointing out that it feels like splitting hairs to say self-medication and coping mechanisms aren’t the same when you’re the individual in pain.
Yeah cope might be the incorrect term here.
"Self-medication" is a synonym for maladjusted coping mechanisms. It's a euphemism. They used the term correctly.
Ah yes, Prohibition for the poor.
Taxes reduce consumption? Id Image people would give up other things before their alcohol, and they’d switch to cheaper alcohol before resorting to reducing.
Gonna to skim the article now
Edit: seems there actually is decent evidence that increasing taxes by 6% caused a 4.7% decrease in [violent] crimes. Or something there about, I skimmed like 3 papers
Looking at Europe, taxing seems to be an effective mechanism:
…A recent analysis on the World Health Organization European Region — which has the highest level of alcohol consumption of all WHO Regions — notes there is strong and compelling evidence in Europe that increasing the price of alcoholic beverages through taxation is one of the most effective (and cost-effective) policies used to lower alcohol-attributable harm…
Let's not compare the average American to the average European please.
Just want to say, props for actually looking at evidence that would challenge your initial viewpoint and changing your views in response to new information. Not enough people do that.
Been sober for years now. No way this works.
I’ll echo other comments here that simply raising taxes does not seem like a successful long-term intervention strategy in a vacuum—and I don’t think the author intended for it to come across this way, though it kind of did. The availability of mental health services and a number of societal ills are what need to be addressed.
I’ll also add that in the same period when the author discusses a decrease in alcohol-related injury deaths, post-1991, there was an increase in illicit drug use as illustrated in this National Institute on Drug Abuse chart. While the increased trend in the use of any illicit drug is largely driven by marijuana in this chart, you can see there are also moderate increases for other drugs like LSD, cocaine, and later heroin.
Did the sudden availability of certain other drugs plus the higher cost barriers to obtaining alcohol create an environment that led to more drug abuse and other drug-related deaths? I don’t know, I’m not a researcher, but it’s a question.
Raise the taxes to lower consumption? That's just stupid. I'm Polish. They tried this here. Beer is around 30 percent more expensive than last year. Vodka around 25. It didn't made me buy less. I have to buy in bulk, what makes me drink even more. Or buy cheaper, lower quality alcohol. Or save money on other things.
This is called a Pigouvian Tax, and they definitely work.
https://movendi.ngo/news/2022/06/07/alcohol-tax-increase-in-poland-leads-to-falling-alcohol-sales/
I strongly disagree with this opinion piece and find the writer's intentions heavily biased, at best, but Pigouvian taxes as a concept are definitely effective.
Thanks! Wasn't the Tobacco settlement fund used to promote anti-smoking programs, given to communities for anti-smoking ordinances, and enriching other public health initiatives that helped make it so effective?
There has to be a use of the tax effectively to discourage the next generations and help increase treatment otherwise the taxes alone could hit a level where some states might start to ignore regulation & the moonshine stills fire back up.
Yep, treating symptoms instead of causes always works.
I feel like making things more expensive doesn't address the root issue.
Maybe things like healthcare, food and housing should be cheaper and more available instead.
Alcohol is poison, it should be taxed more just like tobacco
Love this, i think the best thing we could do is ban alcohol advertising, or at least ban it in a lot of places.
Here's a thought, making "sins" more expensive just makes poor people live in greater poverty to keep their sins a part of their life, making them more miserable and increasing their reliance on said sins.
Increasing luxury taxes on sin items only serves to make people feel like they're doing good while getting their *rocks off on punishing bad people.
Focusing on the poverty issue will do more to prevent unnecessary deaths to drugs and alcohol than making them so expensive only the rich can afford them and make the world a truly better place for everyone.
Yeah, this will end well.
Our "society" sucks. Much of the country lives in subsistence to a few rich assholes.
Clearly the owners won't permit that reality to change, but if you want riots and more mass shootings, by all means, take away your capital battery's means to cope with it, too.
