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WINNER: SNOWY OWL 85-70

โ„๏ธ The Battle of Ice and Fire is here! ๐Ÿ”ฅ

From the North, we have the transcontinental champion of the meme, the squishable polar bear of an owl, the one with the big fuzzy feet, the eater of lemmings, THE SNOWY OWL!

Few of us doubted the Snowy Owl would make it here. It's taken a look at every opponent and said O RLY? Even non-owl fanatics know and love this big plump owl.

Its opponent, from the toasty American Southwest, the tiny titan with a heart of fire, the muncher of moths big and small, the bird whose flaming spirit you can see on its face, THE FLAMMULATED OWL!

This tiny owl has developed a cult following here since taking down the North American King of Owls, the Great Horned Owl. A call had gone out for a new, unknown owl to lead us into the future of owl-ness. Can Flammy answer that call?

Which owl will go forward, and which will be left behind? Upvote your favorite now!

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[โ€“] anon6789 84 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] anon6789 4 points 11 months ago

Flame on! ๐Ÿ”ฅ

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I like Flammy, but I had to vote Snowy. Look at those feets!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're right! I haven't noticed the feet. I have to reconsidere my vote now... And I brag so much about voting flammy * facepalm *

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Feet make the raptor after all!

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Snowy feet may be the best feet! So big and so fluffy!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we could get a flammy-big-feet by crossbreeding...

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Crossbreed owls is a topic I'm looking into!

Not me literally breeding them, me researching them!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That last photo, looks so conniving! Definitely up to no good!. Good or bad, snowy owls have been a favourite of mine since I was a kid. Impressive beasts!

[โ€“] anon6789 1 points 11 months ago

They are! I really want to see one in person.

[โ€“] anon6789 72 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[โ€“] Pattywack 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I vote flammulated, amazing coloring!

[โ€“] anon6789 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hard agree there. It really has the look of a creature born of the Earth. It's an ancient tree in bird form.

[โ€“] Shellbeach 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I couldn't make up my mind until your comment. Ent owl it is!

[โ€“] anthropomorphized 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hanging out in the pines,

Red flare like the sun;

Flammy won't stop,

'til they're number 1!

[โ€“] anon6789 3 points 11 months ago

I love these inspired poems!

Adds a touch of class to the place...

[โ€“] littlebluespark 4 points 11 months ago

Flammy forever! ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’•

[โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 4 points 11 months ago

It flies

How like a bird

Wait that's a bird

That's not just a bird

That's a motherfucking flammulated owl

Look at all the flammules

Aww

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Fabulous photos and a beautiful owl, but those snowies...!

[โ€“] Winged_Hussar 2 points 11 months ago

Those eyes, those damn eyes. So beautifully haunting

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, it's getting harder to decide...

[โ€“] anon6789 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know, there's so many great owls out there!

I'm very happy how everything has went overall. It's been far less predictable than I had first thought. It's great to see everyone putting thought into this and really getting into the spirit of things while still being nice to each other.

[โ€“] Winged_Hussar 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks again for doing this!

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I second that - this is such a fun idea and great way to learn about owls!

[โ€“] anon6789 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's been a ton of fun, and it's been great seeing even more of the regulars like yourself, but especially these last few days so many names I've never seen comment before!

I always forget to ask you, are you just named after the actual Hussars, or is it a reference to the Sabaton song about those Hussars? If it's alluding to the band, I found a YouTube channel the other day where a historian teams up with the singer to discuss the history of the events of the songs and I enjoyed it, so if that was relevant to you, I thought you may enjoy it.

Sabaton History

[โ€“] Winged_Hussar 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The name is for the actual hussars, but I'll check out the band! I'm always eager to listen to new music

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Winged Hussars fan music video

This version has some film footage attached. The song is what lead me to learn about the Hussars. Sabaton is mainly war documentary nerd songs. They're a Swedish power metal band, so I learn all kinds of European history stuff from the songs I hear.

Another song I enjoyed learning from is "Father" about Fritz Haber, one half of of the inventors of the Nobel Prize winning Haber Bosch Process.

His work saved millions of lives, discovering a method to convert atmospheric nitrogen into ammonia for fertilizer. It is attributed to quadrupling world crop yields, allowing for the population boom of the 20th century. Haber and Bosch are considered by many to be the most significant scientists in all history, because their discovery (by production amounts anyway) ended world hunger forever.

Unfortunately, he is also known as the Father of Chemical Warfare. During Germany's wars, he chose to forgo helping the world and focused on "helping" his homeland. He proposed gassing trenches in WWI, weaponising chlorine, and his research lead to the creation of Zyklon B.

"Cliffs of Gallipoli" also got me to learn more about this epic failure. European history and even anything about WWI is so ignored in the US education system. It's crazy a nerdy metal band has to teach me about world history, but whatever works...

[โ€“] Winged_Hussar 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Very cool channel, I appreciate you sharing! You were correct, I very much enjoyed the song - I'll be checking out the rest of Sabaton's music for sure

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Good, I'm glad! It's funny the things that can springboard learning.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

muncher of moths

You can't lose a vote with this argument.

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Well I read it's primary food was butterflies and moths. I know people like butterflies, so I didnt think that was in its favor. Has anyone ever met a person who said, "hey, my favorite animal is the moth!" ?

After talking all these guys up for so long now, there's only so much new stuff for me to throw out there! ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're still not sure who to vote for, you should know that Flammy's Dutch name is absolute fire: Ponderosadwergooruil!

[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ponderosa - (Latin) most common conifer tree in the NW US

Dwergooruil - (Dutch) Scops Owl

Ponderosa itself is from ponderosus, meaning large, heavy, or weighty. So the owl is definitely named for the tree, not its size!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I was already wondering about the first (Latin) part of the name. The literal translation of dwerg-oor-uil is dwarf eared owl. Is that the same as scops Owl? Maybe the Ponderosa part doesn't refer to the trees either, but to Flammy's fanbase right now; it's getting quite large now!

[โ€“] anon6789 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, apologies, I didn't notice your instance, so I'll assume your actual Dutch is a million times better. ๐Ÿ˜…

What a Scops Owl is gets a little tricky. The Indian Scops Owl was the first to be named Scops, specifically Otus scops. Both are Greek words, otus meaning horned/eared, and skops meaning little owl. So Scops Owls used to include the ones you're probably thinking, based on that description, the stout little horned owls like the Screech Owl and our new little buddy, the Flammulated Owl.

The problem was that there were too many Scops Owls, that there were enough differences between them three genus got split up. Screech Owls got assigned to Megascops. Flammulated guy assigned to Psiloscops. There's a few other new Scops genuses, but they usually only have 1 or 2 species in them. Now Otus refers to the Old World (African and Eurasian) Scops Owls. So now Scops are. Basically any owl that looks sorta like a Screech Owl, but isn't in the Americas.

Flammys are found in those Ponderosa forests of the American West, so it makes sense they'd get that name.

Indian Scops Owl

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago
[โ€“] loganberryq 3 points 11 months ago

#SnowyLyyyfe

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] anon6789 2 points 11 months ago

Let it snow!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I love snowy owls but I gotta vote flammy on this. Forgive me