Memes

Both sides ARE bad. The trick is to use critical thinking and realize that one side is "stupid and misguided" bad and the other is "literal nazi, genocide against minorities, and also very stupid" bad.

“The son of YOUR president took a single bribe and showed his ding dong on the internet, my president rapes women, lies about his finances, commits fraud and incites an insurrection! See both side are bad!”

Both are bad though one is worse but both are shit

Both sides are bad. Yes, one is considerably worse than the other, but that doesn't make the alternative good, it just makes it better.

Propagandistic bullshit.

Saying you can't say "both sides suck" means we're stuck with only two and must pick one.

Two is not the only option.

But it's difficult to mobilize the bread eaters as they watch the circus.

ETA for anyone confused, this is not about Hamas v Israel, it's American-centric meme wording.

sort of

But I do think there is a legitimate ACAB angle here, to slice it by power dynamics instead: All political leaders are bastards.

It's not just one nation vs another, it's also civilians vs the political elite. So while I agree it's wrong to say "both sides are equally to blame", there are other useful perspectives. I think.

For me at least, it's more of "conservatives are crazy, conspiracy-led, bigots but liberals are annoying." and this of course only applies to the most outspoken of both sides.

I know plenty of people who vote republican, that are decent people (not antivax, not racist, not homophobic), but are either religious or gun nuts. Hell, I have a coworker that agrees with 95% of democratic policies but will never vote for them because they'll "take his guns." Do I think they're dumb, sure. Do I think they're evil, no?

Liberals I see like vegans. The core messaging is right, but the preachier you get, the more people are going to dislike you, even if they agree with you on principle. Even though I've voted democrat in every election, I couldn't help but roll my eyes when someone told me I should stop using the word "marijuana" because it's racist.

I don't really want to hang out with qanon, racist types or people where I have to be careful of saying "mailman" instead of "mail carrier". Obviously if I had to choose, it'd be the latter, but I don't have to choose because 80% of people aren't that politically motivated every second of their day.

Can't we just vote in someone completely new for once.

Both sides have always been bad?

This is an ancient opinion. People have been complaining about America's two party system for literal centuries.

Can't we start a 'We all suck' movement. There are shitty people of all races, genders, ethnicities, religions, or whatever. Once we all embrace that we can all evolve and work against them.

Both sides is older than any of us. Enlightened centrism is a plague on intelligence

Show me any decision of consequence in life that doesn’t have a downside. There are no perfect choices, just less bad ones. And in the 2024 US election there’s one choice that’s a lot worse than the other.

I get why people want to choose the smaller evil but sometimes it's necessary to point out all evils and head towards a stateless society.

But maybe that's the difference between "both sides bad" and "two sides bad"

The way I see it in the face of climate change disaster literally neither side is going to save us. That is the most important thing to me right now.

It's already too late, but it's even later to reduce the impact.

It’s not just this year

I've found people on here actually arguing that hamas is unambiguously right in their actions. Unlike black lives matter where saying white lives don't matter is a complete straw man that no one was arguing. So making sure people are on the same page about Hamas I think is valuable still.