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All lives rule (suppo.fi)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Both sides are currently supporting genocide right now.

You might want to fix that.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's begging the question in the traditional sense of the term in formal logic. First of all you have to establish that it is in fact a genocide. While what the IDF is doing probably counts as war crimes, I have yet to see a convincing case that it's genocide in a legal sense. We'll see. I'm more than willing to change my mind in light of new evidence or a stronger argument than I have seen thus far.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

From Oxford, the traditional dictionary:

gen·o·cide

noun

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

What part of that is Israel not doing?

Or we can go with the legal definition from the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide linked from https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The only one in question is the last point, but any single one of those points means it's a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Ok so you don’t consider what they are doing genocidal actions.

Forcing people out of their homes, cutting off all electricity, food, and water while having them in a complete barricade and shutting down or extremely limiting aid, while destroying 80% of housing is Genocide.

If you feel the need to try and hide behind obfuscation then you do you but I can call a spade a spade.