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With the Twitter limits today, I think we are already seeing the fallout begin.

It took me 3 minutes of slow loading to get this and this.

It's been over half an hour now and I still have a blank twitter page, what if today is the day twitter actually goes down.

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[–] Tar_alcaran 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Google Cloud hosts many of Twitter’s trust and safety services. If the disagreement isn’t resolved by the end of the month, and if Twitter severs ties with Google Cloud, this could seriously threaten its ability to fight spam, remove child sexual abuse material and generally protect accounts."

So, it only breaks things that are vitally important for Twitter, as well as legally mandated, but not anything Musk actually cares about...

[–] Determinator 39 points 1 year ago

Yea exactly, clearly intentional in a manner that his rabid fanboys will gloss right over and direct their rage at Google or whoever else he ends up blaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I first heard all of this I thought it was just a ridiculous rumour. Out of all the things Elon has done this probably surprises me the most. Google is probably one of a handful of entities that he can't push around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m surprised any other entities let him push them around? What is actually in it for anyone to do anything for this stupid waste of carbon and water?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They want the money or its a sunk cost. Very few companies can afford to say no to billions of dollars and someone like Google just has to push a button in order to pull out of the deal, there's no aftermath to clean up. On the other hand, you have someone like their office landlord which will have to put in a lot of work to find new tenants and clean up the property. They won't be so willing to cut ties.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m gonna be honest, as someone who couldn’t give less of a crap what happens to Twitter, it’s just hilarious at this point. This is the kind of dumpster fire that warms your hands when it’s really cold out, so you just keep coming back to look at it.

[–] qisope 10 points 1 year ago

I found it had value for finding immediate info on some active event, be it an outage of some major service, a breaking news, natural disasters - for me, wildfire info. The rest of twitter I couldn't care less about.

[–] CodeMonkeyDance 5 points 1 year ago

Pure poetry

[–] tdawg 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crazy how being a total asshole to everyone on the planet doesn’t work out in your favor

[–] neutronicturtle 10 points 1 year ago

"It worked so far. I wonder what I'm doing wrong now. I'm probably slipping. I just need to try (to be an asshole) harder."

[–] bighi 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Doesn’t work out in your favor”

You know you’re talking about a guy that became a billionaire by being a jerk to lots of people and even scamming governments, right?

And he could do all that by using money from his father, which became super rich by making lots of Africans work like slaves in mines.

Being a jerk is a lifestyle that pays a lot, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It works out in their favour at the cost of literally everyone else

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Nameproblem 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That could explain the limits today and changing APIs, blocking Nitter and users not logged in...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The login-block appears to be exasperating the issue, by creating a pull loop, they are DDOS-ing themselves. ~source

They turned off non logged in people, to save resources and it caused the opposite effect, too bad they fired all those developers.

[–] foofiepie 19 points 1 year ago

Oh good grief. I thought you were exaggerating.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They fucked around and found out. This is all so fucking hilarious.

[–] wolfylow 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Twitter meltdown looks like it’s gathering pace.

Astonishing how the ultra rich can just get away without paying their bills. Isn’t he also behind on rent for loads of Twitter offices? Not to mention not honouring severance pay agreements.

Wonder if debtors prison is still a thing anywhere in the world …

[–] kaitco 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s amusing that he is behind on office rentals given that he’s demanded his staff stop previous Work From Home and return to the office.

[–] Macabre 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

undefined> staff

This is what boggles my mind about businesses wanting all staff to be in the office full time. Smart businesses have figured out a way to rotate staff or have certain people be exclusively remote. It lets them reduce their office footprint and save money on leases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why not save even more money on leases by just not paying leases?

<taps head>

[–] Aux 5 points 1 year ago

It is very typical for businesses of all sizes to delay payments, not just rich. That's one of the reasons why industrial applications, tools and goods are so expensive - you always need a healthy money buffer when you're doing B2B.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you pay way too much for a barely-profitable business you have to cut costs somewhere. Firing 80% of the staff and refusing to pay the rent was just the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] reverie 2 points 1 year ago

That was a nice office location, too. The whole city is like a little tech hub

Google has taken over blocks of Boulder and put up tons of office space there. One has a massive rock climbing wall

[–] PillowTalk420 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having never used Twitter because even at its inception I thought it was a dumb idea, watching it collapse is quality entertainment.

[–] cogman 8 points 1 year ago

I used it a bit. It was pretty great for things like following a podcaster you liked.

Musk has made it super toxic. Most of the people that I’d follow have left or cut their posting down to zero.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I'm glad since when I found my Twitter rss feeds interrupted it actually pushed me to setup mastodon rss feeds for the first time. I hope Elon keeps this rates limits in place and announces like super blue premium for unlimited access.

[–] N00dle 12 points 1 year ago

Lol. Is this the reason for the rate limit today? Guess the didn't manage to work it out by the end of the month.

[–] partial_accumen 8 points 1 year ago

Normally a company the size of Twitter might get a grace period from Google to pay their bill. Since its been pretty clear that Musk doesn't even pay rent on office building anymore, I wonder if Google will cease all access to the Twitter servers/services running in GCP immediately and demand payment before allowing access again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna point out that the author of that article closes out with this ..

In a worst-case scenario, Twitter may collapse or destabilise if certain elements within it go offline. Aside from Twitter trolls, this outcome would be in nobody’s best interest. So it’s more likely Twitter and Google Cloud will find a mutually agreeable way forward.

And offers exactly zero information to back that warning up. Just a vague hint at bias, "Google better let Twitter not pay or no one will benefit"... Doesn't sound very objective to me.

Because I think it would be in quite a few people's best interests for Twitter to shut down, maybe when it's owner, but definitely a lot of users and the rest of us fed up with journalism being defined by Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I fail to see how it’s in Google’s interest to put up with the Muskrat’s shenanigans. Twitter could collapse overnight and it would be no skin off Google’s teeth.

[–] fruitytootiebootie 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is abviously Twiiter trying to renegoiate their contract with Google.. I hope Google plays hard ball and doesn't give in to Twitter.

[–] bpoiesz -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: actually maybe not, this may be what happened and that despite earlier reports the new CEO was resolving it. Proper payment may not have actually happened…

Original post:

This is old news and it’s already been resolved. It was a negotiating tactic. Not uncommon and the news cycle just ate it up even though it’s mostly a non-issue.

Though I still think Elon is running Twitter into the ground..

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