This just makes RBG sting all the more knowing how long ago this woman retired
this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2023
155 points (98.7% liked)
politics
19290 readers
2907 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
For all the good RBG did I will forever blame her for the current state of SCOTUS. Had she retired under Obama Roe V Wade would likely not have been repealed. It would have been 4-4 and Roberts being the “decider” would likely have ruled it was settled law.
Just my 2¢
My exact thought reading this.
swing justice
Kids these days will have no idea what that is
This is the best summary I could come up with:
He said the justices "mourn the loss of a beloved colleague, a fiercely independent defender of the rule of law, and an eloquent advocate for civics education."
She sometimes sided with the court’s conservatives, approving taxpayer-funded vouchers for students at religious schools, voting to end the 2000 Florida recount between George W. Bush and Al Gore, and advocating for states’ rights against federal control.
But she joined with the court’s liberals in upholding affirmative action in college admissions, approving the creation of more congressional districts with African-American voters in the majority, and keeping a wall of separation between government and religion.
She graduated from law school at Stanford University, where she met her future husband, John, and struck up a lifelong friendship with William Rehnquist, a classmate who would eventually become the nation’s chief justice.
An encounter at formal dinner with Washington Redskins star John Riggins made national headlines when he told her at one point, “Loosen up, Sandy baby.”
At age 75, O’Connor abruptly announced her intention to step down from the Supreme Court to attend to John, who was suffering from Alzheimer’s disease.
The original article contains 712 words, the summary contains 179 words. Saved 75%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
TIL John Roberts thinks "an historic" is still grammatically correct.
But what can we reasonably expect from someone who gets their legal opinions from 150 years ago?
The h sound is inaudible when preceded by “an”, making it correct.
Just the same as how you wouldn’t say or write “I’m be there in a hour”.
No this is completely different. The h is always silent in "hour". It is not silent in "history"/"historic". You can say "an 'istoric moment" if you insist but you'd better also say 'istory or 'istoric in other contexts otherwise you're just being inconsistent.
Likely why it changed. Languages are fun and weird!
John Roberts is from the US, and people in the US pronounce "historic" with a hard "h," as in "hill" or "hidden." You wouldn't say "an hill" or "an hidden."
"An" is appropriately used when proceeding a vowel sound, like in "hour." "A" is used before constant sounds. "The quarterback made a historic pass." "There was a historic reason people used to use 'an' before the word 'historic.'"
I'm aware some countries might not pronounce the "h" in any situation, but languages change, and American English made the switch in the 1940s up through the 1990s. Also, I will take every opportunity to make fun of Federalist Society Shill John Roberts.
Yeah fuck John Roberts for sure but you’re not going to convince me that something correct is actually wrong.
If you want to be pedantic, it's not strictly wrong, but it is not a modern way of speaking or writing, and it hasn't been for over two decades. And I'm not willing to give John Roberts the benefit of the doubt even for pedantry.
So so you also say "I went to the 'istory museum", or "this movie is 'istorically accurate"?
Welcome to the wonderful world of language, where the rules are made up, inconsistent, and know to change with time.
Saying "an historic event" vs "a historic event" is an older way of speaking vs a newer way of speaking
I'm old enough to remember being in school taught "an historic event" as an exception to the "'an' if the word starts with a vowel sound, 'a' if it starts with a consonant sound."
Personally I find myself using both versions as it was inconsistent during my education on which was the proper one and which wasn't.
Yup, here's the explanation for folks who don't know:
https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/grammar/articles_a_versus_an.html
That actually disagrees with their point. It says "an" goes before silent "h" sounds (which means the word starts with a vowel sound), but it doesn't say that it's appropriate to make them silent.
"Historic" starts with a consonant sound, therefore it should be "a historic." Furthermore, the usage of "an historic" is no longer considered a modern usage in the US.
https://www.thesaurus.com/e/grammar/an-historic-vs-a-historic/
Even though that link does posit a logical rationale for a vs. an, it specifically states both are acceptable.
"However, some people choose to say an historic as in This is an historic event. Why? The simplest explanation is they may just have a personal preference and think that an historic sounds better than a historic. There may be other reasons, though. Historically, both forms were commonly used until the 1940s, when a historic began to overtake an historic. By the 1990s, a historic was much more common than an historic. It’s possible that the preference for an historic may be generational or a person may have “inherited” it from a parent or teacher of an older generation.
Alternatively, the preference could be due to regional accents or dialects. English speakers didn’t actually pronounce the H in historic until relatively modern times. This is most likely because the English word historic was influenced by the French historique, which has an unpronounced H. Regional English dialects that practice “h-dropping” may still not pronounce the H in historic, and these speakers are more likely to use an historic (an ’istoric) than a historic.
All of this tells us that both sides of the an historic and a historic debate have support for their argument. In informal writing, either form would be considered acceptable (and likely to face criticism from the other side.) In formal writing, though, the form a historic is the widely preferred form."