this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Though the commission has the power to set the policy, it can’t enforce it."

...Cool

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Behold America and the problem brain dead cohorts refuse to acknowledge. The Muscle and Metal is what decides what shall happen, not the Pen and Paper

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Does that mean they can't hang out with each other after hours?

[–] moistclump 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Holy shit they were allowed in hate and terrorist groups?

[–] distantsounds 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It makes you stand out and gain promotions within the industry. It’s rather common practice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The banality of evil.

I wouldn't be surprised that plenty joined, not out of ideological conviction, but simply because it helped them network and get ahead at work.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With most cops, it's ideological.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not that it arguably matters. You are what you do. Our actions define us.

[–] DougHolland 7 points 10 months ago

What's the Chicago Police Department?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 3 points 10 months ago

Pretty predictable when someone like this is the head of the police union.

https://chicagojustice.org/2021/07/13/john-catanzara-misconduct-social-media/

[–] Witchfire 9 points 10 months ago

I can see them taking this to the Supreme Court, who then decide in a 6-3 majority that fraternization with hate groups and terrorists is protected free speech as long as it's done by police

[–] Tronn4 7 points 10 months ago

I hate Illinois nazis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Welp those hate groups will make churches. Then good fucking luck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Sure this wasn't supposed to be 1924 not 2024?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 2 points 10 months ago

The Tribune did a 3 day front page expose on this issue a few weeks ago. Glad something came of it.