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Reddit has informed moderators of communities that are still private in protest that they will lose their mod status by the end of the week. Thousands of communities went dark earlier this month to push back on the company’s planned API pricing changes.

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[–] overzeetop 72 points 1 year ago

The advertising and crypto spam bots are ready. Is spez?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago

If you reply to let us know you’re interested in actively moderating this community, we will take your request into consideration.

Translation: “shut up, be a good little bootlicker, and we might let you keep working for us for free.”

Fuuuuuuuck those people.

[–] ZephyrXero 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. I got one of these messages last weekend. So what did I do? I created a new replacement community here and pinned a post to the re-openned subreddit encouraging people to migrate.

But I created it over a decade ago, grew it myself from nothing. I'm not giving up mod status

[–] xyzinferno 2 points 1 year ago

Good luck moving the community over to Lemmy! I may subscribe myself; seems up my alley

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

In plain English:
"You are no longer allowed to provide us free labour."

Wake up mods!! You are working for Spez for free.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well reddit can unmoderate deez nuts

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago
  • Change rules to EULA levels of obnoxious detail

  • Perma-ban every infraction, no matter how minor.

Mods can still make their subs go dark... one user at a time, lol.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit removes the ability for subreddits to go private.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So when they said they respect users right to protest what they actually meant was that they dont. got it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was some discussion in /r/modcoord on how mods could actually sue Reddit for free labour. I'm not sure how viable it is, but at least it seems to me like there's some ground to stand on.

https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/ModCoord/comments/14jue57/is_reddits_moderation_structure_illegal_an/

There is also this part "Under FLSA regulations, an individual cannot volunteer services to a private, for-profit company."

[–] Drunemeton 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing that!

Seems like Spaz may have crossed the line but it’ll take someone with deep pockets to take on Condé Nast publishing to find out.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As long as you protest in a way that is ineffective, zero impact to Reddit, and makes good ol' Spez feel special, you can protest all you want I guess?

At least we now know that Reddit cares 0% for their users. Glad I migrated over.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

So are they going to hire people to mod all those subs?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

There's no way this is gonna end badly! /s

[–] ImTiagoSousa 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So is kbin kinda the same as Lemmy, then?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

kbin is to lemmy what gmail is to hotmail

different software, but they talk to each other. they have slightly different features and UI, but they accomplish a pretty similar goal

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, they post to each other's sites

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Nice, still trying to wrap my head around the separate instances. If they were truly federated, wouldn't they all tie into each other or am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] solidgrue 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...and I am also on lemmy.world! Wheee!

[–] dust_accelerator 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meee tooo

Wooooo

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They do.

https://lemmy.world/post/828058?scrollToComments=true

This is the lemmy world link. you can see kbin users comments there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They don't tie into each other in the sense that they share login credentials or anything like that. But they do send messages - posts, comments, favourites, etc. - to each other, if those messages are requested, creating a network of synchronizing content mirrors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think the best analogy is email. Email is built around standards, and it doesn't matter if you use outlook or gmail. That's similar to the fediverse (the standard) and knime/lemmy (the email providers in the analogy).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The thread you are commenting on is on a lemmy instance, lemmy.world, submitted by a user registered on that instance.

You and I are both users registered on kbin.social.

We can all see each other's submissions, submit content on communities, comment on them, etc.

If you are registered on a kbin instance, you'll be using the kbin Web UI to view the same content. That's what differs.

[–] Drunemeton 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also remember that with the cross-instance propagation within the federated servers you can never really delete your post(s). (At least that’s how it was explained to me…)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you delete a post, your home instance sends a federated deletion command. If every server is running lemmy/kbin as-is, then your post will be completely gone. But anyone could modify their instance to not delete posts.
I think if you want GDPR style deletion, you would have to contact each instance admin individually.

[–] Drunemeton 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for explaining that in more detail!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they make this threat already once? Is this like that parenting thing where you keep shifting the deadline but acting like there'll be big consequences?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

They also likely cannot do it. While they were sending pms to mods they completely failed at targetting private and restricted subreddits that aren't part of the protest, including ones that have been privated or restricted way before this month. And people saying there will always be people to replace the mods forgot how not-smooth that is going to go. Besides, the more Reddit antagonise its user base the more unstable it looks. It seems that despite the traffic returning to normal, many ads still haven't returned.

[–] Hypersapien 8 points 1 year ago

I guess my subreddit is too tiny and little-used for them to take notice of.

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