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It's ok R, we still love you for diagrams. (mander.xyz)
submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Somewhere in a backroom, there's a hamster named Julia. In a hamster ball.

[–] Mbourgon 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And rolling around behind it is a smaller ball called M.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget the centipede crawling around in the sewer pipes named Fortran. We've all been trying to kill it for years and yet, somehow, it keeps going.

[–] Mbourgon 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I honestly figured Fortran was still somewhere above M.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Jokes aside, I encounter Fortran in the applied physics community still fairly often. And have never encountered M in a professional context.

[–] finestnothing 2 points 7 months ago

I loved Julia in my data science classes. Codes like python, runs like c. Can also use it with bash by piping values in

[–] Bye 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love R, we are best friends. Life is wonderful when basically every function is vectorized by default.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The tidyverse is my favorite place

[–] Bye 6 points 8 months ago

I used to love it, but all the non-standard evaluation started to give me a headache.

It’s easy enough to just not use it at all, except for ggplot which recently deprecated aes_() which fucking kills me; they really are dead-set on forcing tidy evaluation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably barking up the wrong tree here, but boy do I hate R. The documentation is the worst, combined with the poor r studio experience. Vscode makes notebooks a bit better but lost a lot of functionality as far as I could tell.

Laughed so hard when I this course once they told us to do ML in R with Keras ... By calling the python API.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've made such course and still feel sorry for the students. Was some legacy code just laying around.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh how I wish this was the data scientists I work with

[–] zewu 2 points 7 months ago

This post was sponsored by the Matlab gang

[–] The_Ferry 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I like and despise R... WHY DO I HAVE TO COPY THE TEXT FROM MY CONSOLE INTO A SCRIPT TO ACTUALLY SAVE IT AS AN .R FILE????

[–] Acters 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because it's a console, not an IDE. But I see your frustration and does seem ridiculous

[–] The_Ferry 9 points 8 months ago

Maan, I am way too much of a himbo chemical engineering student yo understand what IDE means, had to channel my inner parent and ask a software guy for help

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am currently arguing with par() and coming back here to shitpost when I get too angry.

EDIT: OMG https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56497422/using-jupyter-r-kernel-with-visual-studio-code finally an IDE with SENSE

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You don't really have to. You could save the workspace along with the history of you commands to load it at a later time, and never have a script at all.

The reason nobody really does that (except maybe if they use R once in every decade) is that it's not really viable in the middle-term. That is because it doesn't distinguish between failed attempts and actual, final code and so quickly becomes a mess.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not me!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

DON'T HURT THE SIMPLE CHILD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel like some people are using python just so they can say that they use python

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's more because when ds has to hand over their work to the eng team the eng team doesn't want to fuck with r

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trust me, the eng team doesn't want to fuck with Python either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Meh lots of python stacks out there now, especially data pipes.

then typescript front ends.

Point is no one wants to support r in production

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I considered looking at R once. As a data scientist and an experienced Python user, maybe I'll see something useful. Then I learned that R uses <- for variable assignment and = for equality evaluation, and I stopped learning because I would make that mistake if I learned to switch back and forth for the rest of my life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You can also use = to assign variables in R it’s just not good practice