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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People will do anything to avoid installing "linux"...

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I'm amazed there are people out there putting windows on a Steam Deck. It's like buying a Monet and then bringing it home and doodling on it in finger paint

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[–] Zoboomafoo 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just spent 2 hours trying and failing to get a Hello, World! in Eclipse, I'm not brave enough for Linux

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Your first mistake was using Eclipse...

Which programming language do you want to use?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depending on what you want to do the one does not imply the other. (And some times coding actually is easier on Linux, I had a way better experience compiling my c++ projects there then my friend had on windows)

[–] SpaceNoodle 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's easy to compile things in Windows! First, set up WSL ...

[–] woelkchen 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It’s easy to compile things in Windows! First, set up WSL …

Yep, echo "Hello World!" works just as well in WSL as under native Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Check out Bazzite. Works pretty well on Desktop in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this moment in time, Bazzite is just straight up a better experience than SteamOS. Fedora backend with rpm-ostree is way better than what Valve has going on. And for Steam Deck, GNOME just makes more sense for touch interfaces.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, I was puzzled why Valve chose KDE to be the default desktop for a touchscreen device. Ultimately though I figured they just wanted a Linux desktop that would be more familiar to Windows users.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I would bet the main reason is that KDE is way more willing to accept features and contributions outside of the typical use case than Gnome is.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can confirm, been using it since....launch almost. Was on Ublu Kinoite Main38 when F38 went into beta.

[–] khannie 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was on Ublu Kinoite Main38 when F38 went into beta.

I'm not even sure if you're taking the piss or that's a real thing

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

~~I mean, if you really want it, HoloISO is almost the exact same thing, just without any support from Valve.~~

Edit: Looks like Bazzite is a much better option nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not going to happen until NVIDIA proprietary drivers work well in Wayland

[–] woelkchen 5 points 1 year ago

Not going to happen until NVIDIA proprietary drivers work well in Wayland

Maybe Valve could just release it and replace the download button with this to get the incompatibility message across:

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think SteamOS is a good desktop OS. It's designed for a gaming console, e.g. a handheld or gaming pc connected to a tv.

The desktop mode is great but the immutable filesystem isn't good for installing of system level apps that are necessary for day to day usage. E.g. kernel modules for OBS virtualcam, VirtualBox and similar.

Any Linux distro with Steam is a generally better experience for desktop usage. SteamOS is big picture mode by default, a desktop OS should open the desktop by default.

That's why I think people will be disappointed if Valve releases SteamOS for any pc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Immutable OS's are increasingly popular. While some types of software are harder to install, the system being harder to break is very appealing. I know if I setup my wife/kids/parents with a Linux OS I would go with an immutable OS to reduce how much they could accidentally break.

Big thing is SteamOS needs a way to install traditional packages permanently. Other immutable OS's usually offer an option to reboot to install packages not otherwise available/viable through flatpak or distrobox/nix.

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[–] Hominine 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The temerity to repeat 'soon' for well over a year is one of Valve's worst traits. One wonders if reflexively lying to customers is intentionally baked into their culture.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This right here is why they do like one interview a year, lmao.

What he actually said was "We're hoping [it will be] soon", but for whatever reason people's reading comprehension skills go out the window whenever there is a Valve interview.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think Valve has good intentions and wants a lot of things done soon, but they just don't have enough people on their Steam Deck team to get things done at the speed they want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and that's probably why development for 3.5 has also been this slow. They were busy with the OLED model

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

Honestly, what would you get out of SteamOS on PC anyway? Just install Linux, set up the drivers you need, launch Steam at startup, and default it to Big Picture Mode.

Boom, SteamOS.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

So what comes first: SteamOS for desktop or Half Life 3?

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