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Fired or resigned, extremely incomplete list:

  • Nick Calandra - Editor-in-Chief
  • Yahtzee Croshaw - Zero Punctuation, Adventure is Nigh, Extra Punctuation
  • Jack Packard - Adventure is Nigh
  • Amy Campbell - Adventure is Nigh, 3 Minute Reviews
  • KC Nwosu - Adventure is Nigh, 3 Minute Reviews
  • Jesse Galena - Adventure is Nigh, 3 Minute Reviews
  • Sebastian Ruiz - Cold Take, Stuff of Legend
  • JM8 - Editor, Design Delve
  • Darren Moody - Columnist
  • Marty Sliva - 3 Minute Review

IP of Zero Punctuation belongs to Escapist, so that is dead as of now.

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[–] TCGM 122 points 1 year ago (3 children)

With a loss of people like that, The Escapist is dead too.

The pro gamer move would be to pick up the Zero Punctuation rights at auction.

[–] cottonmon 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, Yahtzee and ZP was what kept The Escapist alive (Pretty sure there was a point where ZP was their only content). Cold Take was the other thing that was interesting and they lost that too. I don't think they have any other content without those guys.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They always had alternate content, it just generally sucked.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, it should have died years ago the last time they unceremoniously dumped talent over apparently ideological reasons, but they survived.

Granted, this time is different because now they are losing their primary breadwinner. They plodded along before because ZP still brought in people. This wound may actually be fatal.

[–] Dasnap 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Looks like Yatzee is losing access to the Zero Punctuation IP, so he'll have to move to a different brand. Must be a bloody difficult move after being with ZP for almost 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"IP" feels like such a weird term here. It's not that I disagree, it's just weird to think about. Oh no, he will have to be mad at games with an English accent to slightly different clipart. He may have to find a new nu metal riff for his intro.

[–] Dasnap 47 points 1 year ago

It was a recognisable brand, so he'll definitely lose viewers in the transition who simply don't know the two series are related. The Yatzee character was Yatzee to most people, so he's almost having to give up his face. It's not like Conan O'Brian moving to a new show where everyone already knows who he is and what he looks like.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I think most of the format are Yahtzee's IP, because he made two episodes released on his own channel independently under the name "Fully Ramblomatic" before being picked up by The Escapist maintaining pretty much an identical formula under the Zero Punctuation name. I think there would be a case that the little black imp thing is his for the same reason.

[–] CADmonkey 81 points 1 year ago

The only reason I even knew The Escapist existed is because of ZP.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That title made me feel like I was having a stroke.

[–] twotone 28 points 1 year ago

Common issue on Lemmy from what I've seen, stemming from a lack of harder moderation.

Reddit's r/games may have been very heavy on the rules, but those rules insured a level of quality that the Lemmy counterparts don't have.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, good luck keeping the lights on without Yahtzee, he's been the sole reason 90% of your audience even existed in the first place.

[–] daikiki 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's more like 100%. The escapist is yahtzee. Was, rather. Now it's a logo, a url, and a back catalog.

On the bright side, the entire team has banded together to launch "Second Wind". Their new discord is popping and there will be a livestream tomorrow detailing the team's plan going forward

[–] ericbomb 5 points 1 year ago

Gonna be honest, since it seemed like Yahtzee was the only one who pulled in views I kind of always assumed he was like the channel owner? You know "Yahtzee's shenanigans and he funds his friends trying to do stuff hoping something will stick"

But I'm just a super casual but long term watcher. I watch every zero punctuation, and like... yeah that's it. Been doing that for a decade.

Wild they managed to piss off the reason people care about them.

[–] DaMonsterKnees 5 points 1 year ago

Good scoop, you, thanks!

[–] ericbomb 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've been subbed for... dearie me, ten years? Basically only for zero punctuation. I watched it when I was too poor to buy all the games I wanted and I got a kick out of him roasting games I couldn't afford as hot trash.

[–] diegooooooo 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the hell does murica-firing means? Is it getting shot by your employer?

[–] Deestan 95 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Zero notice, zero rights, immediate lockout, zero dignity. The kind of firing that breaks at least 8 laws in most European countries.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Ironically, no more Zero Punctuation!

[–] diegooooooo 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation, sounds really scummy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sadly, it is actually pretty normal in the US, hence the name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ironically, no more Zero Punctuation!

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[–] Alk 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah this title is out there.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit. No more Zero Punctuation?

That sucks balls.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They said they're looking to go independent and would update soon

[–] sirfancy 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They literally just gave Yahtzee a new segment. Actually unreal. Hope they find a new better job soon, we all know how talented they are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He said he'll still be working, I'm sure those guys are all following along

[–] iforgotmyinstance 36 points 1 year ago

Companies everywhere losing the fucking plot.

[–] samus12345 35 points 1 year ago

Let's all laugh at an industry

That never learns anything, tee-hee-hee!

[–] dynamojoe 30 points 1 year ago

brb adding the escapist to the blocklist

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I remember following the Escapist when they transitioned to YouTube, after probably longer than a decade of hosting their own stuff on their own service. I remember seeing all these shows they had spun up, but they all had exponentially less viewership than anything with Yahtzee in it. There were movie reviews which I occasionally caught and a bunch of other content that I just didn't care for.

I tried to get into the other creators on the platform but only Yahtzee had any staying power for me. Slightly Civil War/Slightly Something Else was great too when Jack started coming in. I've been a fan of Jack's since his Red Letter Media days, when he was doing Pre-Rec with Rich Evans.

[–] Deestan 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sebastian "Frost" Ruiz's stuff has quickly gained loving fans. I recommend looking at his Cold Take ot Stuff of Legend stuff if you haven't.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 3 points 1 year ago

I really love his 7-8 minute video essays on the gaming industry, hope he can still go do something similar.

[–] rustyfish 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Deestan 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He refused to sign an NDA, so he explains briefly in the Twitter thread, and we'll probably hear more later.

In short: Sudden firing (as in, locked out of Slack and email while at work while being informed of being fired) for not "meeting goals", where goals were not clearly defined.

[–] rustyfish 30 points 1 year ago

Well that’s just fucking scummy.

[–] Gigan 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do we know what the NDA was about?

[–] Deestan 37 points 1 year ago

Looks like standard corporate damage control NDA where you are not allowed to discuss the reason or terms of your firing. Usually illegally demanded to get severance pay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was laid off earlier this year and was locked out of my Google account and Slack and everything else company related immediately after my meeting with HR and my manager ended. It was shocking how quick they were about it.

I kind of wonder if Google Workspace has a "Fire Employee" button for administrators. I think it probably does.

[–] Uglyhead 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gamurs bought a bunch of websites and have been fumbling the bag on all of them. RIP Escapist, and soon others.

Seemingly started to go downhill this year with Silicon Valley Bank fiasco

[–] c0mbatbag3l 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zero punctuation and Cold Takes are both fucked now, thanks guys!

[–] cottonmon 6 points 1 year ago

If I understand correctly, Cold Take is owned by Frost so he can take that with him if he wants to.

[–] caut_R 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really liked Jack as a DM. I hope he‘ll do a DnD podcast; his improv skills, voice acting, and open-mindedness to his players’ „bullshittery“ really would make for an exceptionally enjoyable podcast. And Yahtzee‘s humor also helped. The animations were great, but I don‘t think a voice only podcast would hurt and easens the production burden. I wonder how hard they could just pick up where they left off with AIN without infringing on IPs.

[–] Gamoc 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The things you mentioned make Adventure is Nigh the best DND campaign play thing I've found so far, it's excellent.

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