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I'm currently driving around Iceland. I have seen a Renault Megane, a plethora of newer Yaris', one Yaris Cross (I lost my damned mind) and a crap ton of Suzuki Jimnys. Now, I've driven in some awful conditions in the states. Blizzards in Montana, Tornadoes in Texas, hail storms in the South and ridiculous wind in Arizona. I have driven in all of that in this tiny country, all in a short wheel base Kia Sportage. I was also outpaced by a fucking Yaris today, absolutely bombing down the mountain in 1c weather. Mind you, it was not a GR so AWD was out of the question.

I am so impressed by this Kia and all of the insanely capable Jimnys I am seeing coming off of F-roads.

If a harsh place like Iceland can coexist with RAM 2500s and modern Yaris', why can't we?

Oh, and when I say around I don't mean poking around Reykjavik, I am literally driving the Ring Road around an entire country. Coolest experience ever.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US laws prefer large vehicles.

Look into the 25% import tax on small work trucks- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Also, larger SUVs and trucks get preferential treatment under gas mileage standards. Someone more familiar can explain better.

FYI - my daily is a 24 year old Subaru.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once a vehicle is over a certain size, vehicles get exempted from fuel economy standards and taxes because they're classified as "light trucks", which was originally intended for work vehicles.

[–] vivavideri 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have the same light bulbs in your instrument cluster as the 01? Fuckin tachometer and speedo lights went out in my Forester and I'm a little salty. I had a ford fiesta, loved it, hated it, sold it before we moved so we wouldn't have to tow it. Got an 01 Forester. Miss having subcompact hatches so hard, so we found an 01 Honda insight, but it's rouuugh lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are a few out but I can still see. The light on the radio annoys me because it is out entirely and I haven't gotten around to replacing the radio yet.

[–] Bdtrngl 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People are constantly surprised when I tell them my GTI is great in winter with snow tires. These are the same people who tell me their SUVs are perfect for snow rocking bald all seasons cause FoUr WhEeL dRiVe.

[–] datelmd5sum 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been driving front wheel drive hatchbacks for almost 20 years in 62+ degrees north latitude. This winter was the first time I got stuck when we suddenly shattered the october snowfall record and it overwhelmed the snow removal capacity. I'd still want a AWD, but it's really not necessary. It's probably faster and safer to ski to work in conditions where AWD is a must.

[–] KpntAutismus 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i would have a set of chains with me if my area was known to be snowy. or did you get stuck with chains on?

[–] datelmd5sum 1 points 10 months ago

I have studs. Only tractors use chains here afaik.

[–] blattrules 4 points 1 year ago

I don’t doubt that at all; I had a civic si that was the best car I’ve ever owned in the snow and I only had all-seasons on it. One time, I stayed at work way later than I should have when a blizzard was hitting and made the 20 mile drive home without an issue. As I got within 5 miles of my house there were very few other vehicles on the road except for an occasional truck and they weren’t having any easier of a time than I was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's pretty uncomfortable to drive around the city in 4x4 mode. I'd much rather have an AWD drive vehicle unless you're really driving through deep snow or going off-road. The clearance on trucks is nice though.

[–] FireTower 8 points 1 year ago

The success of the Maverick gives me hope we will see more attempts at small vehicles going forwards.

[–] Poe 6 points 1 year ago

Think the smallest modern car we got was the Toyota Yaris which was a rebranded Mazda2. And that got axed due to low sales. Consumers need more of an incentive to downsize

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are tornadoes in Iceland?

[–] Sea_pop 0 points 1 year ago

Sure felt like it! Winds were kicking at 40km sustained on the west coast. Absolutely killed our mileage that day. But no, no tornadoes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't go wrong with some hot hatchbacks, Fiesta, Corsa, Clio, Golf, Astra, Focus, Civic, Yaris.

Some fantastic cars which some of them can be pretty fast, handle well, and being hatchback have a decent amount of room. And cheap as shit to run.

[–] KpntAutismus 1 points 10 months ago

1st gen yaris driver here, i fucking love this thing. it's small from the outside, so i get into parking spaces very easily. but toyota also made the most with the available space they have. i am 6'4" and fit in it perfectly. we fit a full-sized mountain bike into there once, and i'm sure another one would've gone in as well.

did i mention it does 40mpg? a 20 year old car with 70hp (that not being very much, but it was also available with up to 105).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How about: America needs less and smaller cars

[–] XeroxCool 4 points 1 year ago

We had the Jimny here for a bit, called the Suzuki Samurai. There was also the upsized cousin, the Suzuki Sidekick/Vitara and Geo/Chevy Tracker into the 00s. That's what I have and love it. I wanted some 4wd capability but not the fuel consumption or parking space for a normal suv/pickup. It weighs less than a modern Miata and is shorter, too. As a 2 door variant, it suits my primary driving need: solo and single-passenger short trips with less than a seat-full of cargo. The average car-owning household in the US owns something like 2.3 cars and is in the suburbs/semi urban. They don't all have to be 7-seat or 8ft-bed trucks. And this whole fear of snow... Don't go out. Stock up food before storms. US suburbs fare just fine with modern communication and snow removal as long as it's not Texas. Your job won't miss you if you die in a blizzard

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A Kia Sportage is a small crossover. That category is one of the most popular in America. There are already a huge number of them on the roads and the models like the Rav4 and CRV are often among the top 5 models in terms of new cars sold.

As a sidenote please do not buy a Kia. The company just simply isn't committed to quality. Every few years it's revealed a huge number of their models has some fatal flaw. The company always refuses to fix everything until they get their ass sued into oblivion.

[–] Sea_pop 1 points 1 year ago

Very true but we don't have this Kia. The Sportage here is a shorter wheel base than what we have in the states. I want to say 6 inches shorter overall.

I drove that thing to a Glacier today. Was doing 45km/h on large river rocks. Handled it like a champ! I am thoroughly impressed.

[–] nBodyProblem 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really think the Duster could be a huge hit over here. I rented a turbodiesel duster in Iceland and that thing is dog slow but they’re around $12k with loads of ground clearance, 4WD, plenty of interior space, and gets around 45 mpg. I went on some pretty gnarly “mountain vehicle only” F-roads and it handled them like a champ with only a little rubbing on the rocks.

Ironically, though, Iceland competes with the USA in size and number of SUVs and trucks. The country is crawling with “superjeeps” on big lifts and 44”+ tires that dwarf the average American brodozer.

[–] Sea_pop 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I am shocked by the amount of larger F150s and RAM trucks I've seen. Even witnessed a GMC Sierra in Akureyri.

The Duster is a sweet little ride. I'd snag one if they brought it to the states.

[–] nBodyProblem 2 points 1 year ago

It makes sense though if you think about it. From talking to the locals, of the small cars seem to be either tourists or citydwellers because much of the country is inaccessible in the winter without large low pressure tires and high clearance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I hope the volvo ex30 has a lot of success with it's size, price and speed.