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Craig Mokhiber, director of human rights body, accuses the US, UK and much of Europe as ‘wholly complicit in the horrific assault’

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate this.

I hate when good people step down.

They just open the door for some tool to step in and make the problem normal.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good people letting themselves be complicit in bad things, whilst they are powerless to do good, helps no one.

[–] chuckleslord 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

He was retiring anyways, just found a good moment to retire

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

More often, threat of resignation is a political tool to sway others. I mean, if everyone knows that the person threatening to resign is that good and irreplaceable, others would cave in. I don't know how the UN works behind closed doors, and how capable Mokhiber is, but we'll see if this works and the UN comes begging for him to return.

[–] Linkerbaan 54 points 1 year ago

This guy gave a absolutely amazing interview today. Completely destroys israel, doesn't even go for the softy 2state.

https://youtu.be/wiGp2mvFLY0?si=WYD-YCE0R1dlhL8V

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Are we sure he just wasn't retiring due to his age? This statement seems pretty vague.

edit: for clarity, this is sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sound pretty clear to me. And if you include the context of each sentence, before and after, I don’t see how much clearer it could get.

He said that the UN had failed to prevent previous genocides against the Tutsis in Rwanda, Muslims in Bosnia, the Yazidi in Iraqi Kurdistan and the Rohingya in Myanmar and wrote: “High Commissioner we are failing again.

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Mokhiber added: “This is text book case of genocide” and said the US, UK and much of Europe were not only “refusing to meet their treaty obligations” under the Geneva Conventions but were also arming Israel’s assault and providing political and diplomatic cover for it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're 100% correct. I was making a joke about the people saying otherwise. I did an edit, but it wasn't fast enough to save you the time. Thank you for the correction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poe’s Law strikes again!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better than Murphy's Law, because when that one strikes Matthew Mcconaughey falls out of a higher dimensional bookshelf worm hole in your ceiling. He is not fun company and keeps telling you to "just roll with it."

[–] Aceticon 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Around here Murphy's Law strikes as something like "After 1/2h writting a well though insightful comment, just before the the would be commenter presses 'Reply' he up/downvotes the parent comment, thus losing the entire text of his own not yet posted comment"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Mokhiber, who was stepping down having reached retirement age..."

[–] Wakmrow 27 points 1 year ago

I'm so desperate for any one in power to do something, I'll take this anyway

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

While sometimes positions have a requirement to retire at a certain age and/or tenure, most don’t — I’m not sure if this particular role has such requirements. My reading of this is that while he was eligible to retire, he probably was not required to. Many people work past retirement eligibility.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can someone help me understand how this is positive? Or is it just abjectly hopeless and bleak, and that’s the reason he did what he did?

Seems to me that leaving your role because of your opposing views allows those you disagree with to fill it themselves. Typically with someone who agrees with them.

I guess that might answers my question: he felt hopeless.

[–] a9249 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At that level "resignation" = terminated politely.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"Guy who can easily retire with a pension because he's past retirement age anyway gives middle finger to his old boss as he leaves because he's sick of things never changing"

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don't know if you actually read his letter giving notice, but Gaza has functionally been his life's work. He's lived there for many years and fought for human rights and equality.

Whether or not he's at retirement age, this is a dark culmination to his life's work.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fighting Genocide is positive even if you are old

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[–] qevlarr 10 points 1 year ago

Where's the lie though?

[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 1 year ago
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