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In ads, debates and public statements, the opposition campaign and top Republicans have increasingly been referencing “partial-birth abortions” as an imminent threat if voters approve the constitutional amendment on Nov. 7. “Partial-birth abortion” is a non-medical term for a procedure known as dilation and extraction, or D&X, which is already federally prohibited.

“It would allow a partial-birth abortion,” Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine told reporters recently as he explained his opposition to the constitutional amendment, known as Issue 1.

“For many years, in Ohio and in this country, we’ve had a law that said a partial-birth abortion — where the child is partially delivered and then killed and then finally delivered — was illegal in Ohio,” the governor continued. “This constitutional amendment would override that.”

Constitutional scholars say that is not true and that the amendment would not override the existing federal ban if Ohio voters approve it.

“So changing our constitution will not affect in the slightest way the applicability of the federal partial-birth abortion ban,” said Dan Kobil, a law professor at Capital University in Columbus, who supports abortion rights. “It would be a federal crime for a doctor to violate that ban.”

That’s because the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution calls for federal laws to trump state laws, said Jonathan Entin, professor emeritus of law at Case Western State University.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because republicans only speak in terms that evoke fear from their voters. Doesn't matter if what they say is actually true or not, they have no moral compass.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A cynic might say they are lying to stir up their voter base. I'm sure that's not true though...

[–] worldwidewave 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh that’s certainly true. Why does the “migrant caravan” arrive every four years, and mysteriously disappear from rage bait news after the election?

When you can’t win actual arguments, you make up things the other side doesn’t believe in, and then you simply debate your own straw-men. This has been the leading Republican debate strategy for the last decade(s).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The only thing that has been stirred up is the #GOP losing consistently at the ballot box since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I mean it's easier to just say "they make shit up scare voters to vote in their favor"

[–] Serinus 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This isn't the first or only completely made up line of attack.

They'll also go on about gender surgeries and "protect the children" as though any of that is related.

[–] SiegeRhino 6 points 11 months ago

I'm in Ohio - already got a mailer saying if this passes, your child will be able to trans their gender without your consent!

and then the mailer told me about jesus

it made for fun confetti :)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

"Health care should be between you and your doctor, otherwise we'll have federal government death panels." - These same lying assholes

[–] baronvonj 16 points 11 months ago

The ban itself is just another Cruelty Is The Point dog whistle. There are alternative procedures to use in the same situations, such as when they basically dismember the fetus in utero and extract the pieces, but they're more dangerous to the patient. So the ban doesn't actually prevent an abortion from taking place, just more likely to have complications.

[–] Ejh3k 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait. So the Republicans want to bring back a method of federally banned abortion just to ban it again?

[–] TheRealKuni 5 points 11 months ago

If I understand correctly, there is going to be a constitutional amendment in the Ohio election to protect abortion rights (Michigan did the same last year).

Republicans are lying about the amendment (just like what happened in Michigan) to make it sound worse than it is to fire up their base and to make any idiots sitting on the fence think it’s extreme and evil. They’re hoping to defeat it by lying about it.