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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Lmao a beta blocker is for fucking heart problems and similar things, it's not even a mental illness thing this dude is a dumbass

Edit: apparently beta blockers can be used for anxiety

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beta blockers are usually prescribed for heart problems, but what they actually do is block boosts of adrenaline. That can help people with anxiety, because anxiety manifests as an adrenaline boost when trying to do certain things, leaving them shaky and nervous. If someone is anxious about speaking in public, or talking to new people, etc, beta blockers help with that a lot. They're a game changer for people with social anxiety.

[–] Proxima_Centauri11 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, from someone having afib and social anxiety, only needing to take one pill (Inderal) really works wonders for me!

[–] Crow 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I have sweating issues that I take beta blockers for.

[–] jelloeater85 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They basically suppress the flight or fight response in you. Not like a SSRI or a NDRI. Works on your body's lymphatic system. Also good for heart issues, as that's what it was originally used for AFAIK. Not a psychiatrist, just know a lot about psych meds, went to school for psych and soc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Beta blockers work on the adrenergic system, not the lymphatic system. The lymphatic system is used to transport immune cells as well as fluid that has absorbed into the intercellular space from the circulatory system.

But yeah, they essentially block the function of adrenaline/epinephrine on the heart primarily, slowing heart rate and potentially helping with anxiety through action in the central nervous system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah I see, interesting. I never put two and two together with the name. I know SNRIs/SSRIs are alpha antagonists, so I guess it's similar but they're like beta antagonists? Is that correct?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

SSRIs and SNRIs aren’t necessarily alpha blockers (although some similar drugs like mirtazipine (Remeron) have some action there).

SSRIs get their name because they are selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, meaning the prevent reuptake of serotonin at the neuron junction, and that increases action of serotonin in that junction. And that is what causes the anti-anxiety or anti-depressive effects. SNRIs do the same thing, but with both serotonin and norepinephrine.

Many drugs have effects at other receptors (like histamine) that may cause adverse effects like sleepiness.

Beta blockers block the action of adrenaline/epinephrine at beta-adrenergic receptors, primarily found on the heart (beta-1) or lungs (beta-2). Beta blockers are primarily used in heart failure, heart arrhythmias, hypertension, and performance anxiety.

Alpha blocker also block adrenaline, but primarily in the vascular system (alpha-1). Alpha blockers are often used for enlarged prostate, hypertension, and some uses related to anxiety or PTSD.

Certain alpha and beta blockers can get into the brain and may have effects in anxiety have other effects like fatigue or weight gain.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have heard of them being used psychologically. From the wiki about beta blockers,

many controlled trials in the past 25 years indicate beta blockers are effective in anxiety disorders

Musicians, public speakers, actors, and professional dancers have been known to use beta blockers to avoid performance anxiety, stage fright, and tremor during both auditions and public performances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hm interesting

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

beta blocker

I don’t know, I think this is a joke that didn’t land very well.

[–] yokonzo 6 points 1 year ago

It’s prescribed for a variety of things

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My ex used to use beta blockers before having to do public speeches

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They stop panic attacks, but they don't have anything to do with depression.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They essentially block your body from releasing adrenaline. It's commonly used for anxiety and it's rumored to be why mark Zuckerberg looked and sounded so robot-like during the debate hearings. Also used for migraines, high blood pressure, heart palpitations and a list of other things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Beta blockers can also suppress some types of migraines!

Ive got genetic heart issues and migraines since I was a kid, so the 241 pill has been really nice

[–] TheLobotomist 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol beta blockers slow your heart rate and lower your pressure, they are not psychoactive.

Also psychologists can't prescribe medications.

Put some effort into this shit!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

A lot of people don't realize the difference between psychologists and psychiatrists. It doesn't help that a lot of places offer "therapy with medication management" so it's all through the same place but with two different people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A clarification, please?

Where can a psycologist prescribe medication?

[–] aaaa 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been in a situation where my therapist was a social worker, but he made his recommendations to the psychiatrist. The psychiatrist barely talked to me directly, he just had me fill out some tests about how I was feeling, and compared those results to the recommendations by the social worker.

And then prescribed me whatever the hell concoction made sense to him at the time.

Also, this anon is probably not worried about getting the details right about his friend's treatments. He probably didn't use the right word here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was good and bad to read at the same time.

Good you got the help you required, bad because you were never properly met by the psychiatrist. That's dehumanizing.

[–] aaaa 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All things considered, it was better than what I expected to get from the Military.

Even still, no combination of the meds we tried gave me good results, but taking a vacation and visiting home did. This experience is largely what has put me off from meeting with anyone else since then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If it somehow worked for you, I'm glad, but we all deserve better, especially when it comes to our minds.

[–] Touching_Grass 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

go to the gym

Every fucking time.

I go to the gym all the time. Its not a fix all.

[–] ryry1985 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. It's one good thing that supplements other things to help your mental health.

[–] Touching_Grass 5 points 1 year ago

And these people act like there's some movement to advise not to exercise. They're the champs at creating imaginary villains and spending all day playing victim and acting oppressed. Its got to be some type of mental disorder. They should go to the gym more often

[–] sock 0 points 1 year ago

find an exercise you like is better advice

weight lifting sucks calisthenics is king (for me)

[–] dipshit 1 points 1 year ago