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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Internet was better when it was a bunch of forums and personal web pages

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We can get it back, and the antitrust trials are a big part of actually doing it

https://youtu.be/rimtaSgGz_4?si=fQc-lIFzT-0hoeNv

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[–] FlyingSquid 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The internet was better when it was Usenet and Gopher.

[–] WaxedWookie 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The internet was better when it was a pair of tin cans and a string.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh sure, like that was an improvement over cave painting.

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2 115 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yup. It definitely feels like over time the human element of the Internet has been replaced by a corporate one. The most blatant example I can think of is youtube. Nowadays it's so obvious rigged in the favour of already established media and a select few content creators.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah I'm feeling less like a participant, and more like a consumer on the "greater internet" (five big), compared to the early days when corporate presence was minimal, and not remotely slick or subtle. It was like dorky and obvious, and didn't seem remotely like a threat.

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[–] RandomPancake 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I miss the day when you could search YouTube for something like "JFK skyclub" and actually get video of the Skyclub at JFK. Today you'll get 15-minute videos that are 90% a guy talking about his thoughts on JFK, or Skyclub, or airlines, or whatever. If you're really lucky, some of them may feature a few seconds of actual footage of Skyclub.

It's not just Skyclub or travel videos. If I search for "repair mr coffee" I want to see a howto, not someone's SEO-optimized long winded lecture about whatever coffeemakers they're selling.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Worse than what? Paying Atlantic for a subscription?

[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whether we like the Atlantic or not, I feel like at some point if we want quality journalism we need to fund it.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But do paywalls actually encourage people to pay? I would point out that NPR/PBS and The Guardian are at least partially funded by the people but still offer news for free and it seems to work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

NPR is funded by underwriters, donors, government grants, and licensing their content to affiliate stations. It’s actually really interesting to see how they’ve cobbled it together. So yeah it’s free for you and me but a lot of money is actually flowing back and forth.

Point being there are a lot of ways to fund things!

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[–] sbg 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fair point. I don't mean to suggest that authors don't deserve to be paid for their work. And while the article discusses Google and Amazon's attempts to manipulate online behavior to drive up their profits, I remember a time when paywalls were a rare exception rather than the rule while reading articles online.

[–] Copernican 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's because there was a time when everyone had print subscriptions that were healthy, and the internet just gave them extra money for ads. When you start losing subscribers because everyone is looking at your shit online for free, you learn you need to charge for it.

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[–] uis 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

enshittification

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Simple, capitalism found a new promised land. The next space to fill up. And manifest destiny within.

Unfortunately but fortunately as well, it's an infinite space. Early money has built large infrastructure within it. It's been built over time and now is so massive it's hard to comprehend in the real world. It's nearly impossible to compete with them other than them tearing themselves down, but the space is still nearly infinitely large and competitors can still rise in the fringe and who knows after decades maybe rise to the same kinda massive company

So now we must limit the infinite. Cull all of it to the finite they can control. The virtual world is real, the metaverse is already upon us, and unfortunately it's already starting to look like the late capitalism asphalt shopping plazas.

So it's worse cause it's built for the investors and being limited for them too. It's why people beg for the next BIG thing, so that they can find new land or new ways to control this 4th space.

[–] snausagesinablanket 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

so that they can find new land or new ways to control this 4th space. Pretty sure that Meta was meant to be the next big market space.

I think Zuckerberg was expecting all of us to sit in a chair with VR headsets on all day and buy buy buy.

I personally feel like it's a total invasion of my privacy because it learns "me" and then tries to influence my every move a lot more intimately than cookies in a browser does.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

100% absolute control over your life to sell you as much as possible.. And people consider that a utopia and not a problem

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yah don't see a small player coming around anytime soon. People don't realise how uterlu massive these tech companies are.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell me no one actually needed to be told that. Please. For my sanity.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Trust corporations to ruin something people enjoy.

[–] CosmicCleric 27 points 1 year ago

Its time to 'AT&T' Alphabet/Google/YouTube.

[–] _Lost_ 26 points 1 year ago

Funny, but this isn't the best example. The Atlantic has been a subscription magazine for coming on 200 years now. It's also one of the few places you can get non click bait articles without ads.

[–] Mr_Blott 24 points 1 year ago
[–] Betch 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I thought this was the joke

[–] xkforce 15 points 1 year ago

Good old atlantic coming to the correct conclusion for the wrong reasons.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I believe what you meant to write is "The internet IS worse"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would get off google if I were you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I strangely feel very conflicted over Google. I have a Pixel phone which supports the security hardened GrapheneOS.

Were it not for Google allowing their phones to be so easily rooted, I'd probably be with Apple, who have their own egregious privacy invading practices.

Google also left rss feeds available on Youtube, which essentially allowed me to easily move my subscriptions to my rss feeder instead of outright subscribing. Then, thanks to Invidious, I just use an extension to reroute any time I visit that channel/video.

Grant you, Google could easily remove these features that strangely enough allow for easy migration away from their platform, and I can definitely see a future where they do just that.

It just is such a strange thing for a company to have these built in aspects to their products that literally allow you to migrate away from their platform.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that this gives Google some sort of pass to do as they please. I haven't used Google search regularly in a very long time. I still use their email and calendar solely because my current job team uses it as one of their main scheduling tools, but would prefer if we used something like a NextCloud instance.

In short, I have done some things to get away from Google's suite of software and will continue to do so, but these strange loopholes, especially the interesting relationship Pixel/GrapheneOS has, make me wonder about how Google could still make certain products and remain a smaller, much more regulated, part of the Internet as a whole...

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[–] Sludgehammer 11 points 1 year ago

Well... you gotta hand it to them, that's a succinct summary.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Capitalism does not work well when companies are too big. No one can compete unless you are already very rich. That sucks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people are actually acknowledging this maybe we could do something about it.

Google should have been (should be?) nationalized. Or maybe stick it under the USPS. (If only people weren't constantly trying to kill the USPS...)

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