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While the trend is horrible for my beloved country with crime increasing year over year which is very fucked we need to keep perspective. Sweden has a population of almost 11 million. NY 9 or so. Sweden a given month 2-11 homicides, NY around 30. And there are far worse cities out there.
We need to get crime down for sure however, we can't let this become the new normal.
I think it's not really the volume that's worrisome as much as the relatively fast evolution.
Yeah exactly it's a very concerning trend
Yeah, even with gang violence sweden is crazy safe, safer than any US city or even town I can think of.
It's so safe people being killed is world news.
It's almost like strict drug laws are counter productive, and that prohibition gives space for the most violent gangs to thrive
It's also possible that a large number of murders go undetected. I'm pretty sure there's a serial killer operating around Trondheim that the police seem to be unaware of. And about 15 years ago there was one in Bergen.
What makes you think that?
They're the serial killer.
I was in both places for some of the time it was going on but not all of the time.
Bergen had a lot of missing persons posters go up for a while and they were all blonde men in their early twenties. I haven't seen missing persons posters anywhere else in Norway and there aren't any in Bergen now.
Trondheim has a lot of drownings. More than Bergen which has a longer coastline and a higher population than Trondheim. And despite the non white population of Trondheim being less than 10% of the total they make up about 90% of the drownings.
Thanks for putting things into perspective. However, I'm unsure how much sense it makes to compare a country with a city. I guess social dynamics change a bit when population density rises. It's easier to find groups for fringe activities in cities.
Sure, the Stockholm Region had 38 murders last year. Laredo, Texas, reportedly a rather safe, small, US town of 250,000 had 13 murders. But Region Stockholm is around 10 times that size. So 130 vs 38.
If we instead compare to Malmö which is the second worst region but much smaller than Stockholm, roughly like Laredo it's 13 for Laredo and 5 for Malmö.
I'm surprised at this. A lot of the people getting killed are family members of people affiliated with the gangs. Pretty crazy that some of these have also attacked people at the wrong address. This is like Breaking Bad but for real and the people involved are not particularly smart nor spectacular.
The people doing the killings are indiscriminate monsters. Multiple times an innocent person has gotten killed instead of the intended target. A few weeks ago a 70 year old blind man got gunned down because he was at the same pub as a gang member. Yesterday a womans home got blown up, and the woman died. The intended target was her neighbour.
I can't even begin to describe the burning hatred that I feel for the people in these gangs, most gangs use young teens as killers since they're more likely to get a more lenient sentence and are easy to manipulate. Because of these people I don't feel safe in my own home. I worry that our new neighbour might have gang connections and we'll be the next innocent victims.
I truly wish the gang members and especially their leaders a horrifying death.
Sorry for my Attack of the Clonesesque rant.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
STOCKHOLM (AP) — Three people were killed overnight in separate incidents in Sweden as deadly violence linked to a feud between criminal gangs escalated.
Hours later, one man was killed and another was wounded in a shooting in Jordbro, south of the Swedish capital.
Two gangs — one led by a Swedish-Turkish dual national who lives in Turkey, the other by his former lieutenant — are reportedly fighting over drugs and weapons.
Earlier this week, two powerful explosions ripped through dwellings in central Sweden, injuring at least three people and damaging buildings, with bricks and window sections left spread outside.
On Thursday, Anders Thornberg, the police chief, said the feud “is a serious threat to the safety and security of the country” of 10 million people that is often considered a safe place with a low crime rate.
Strömmer said that it was “not relevant to deploy the military,” but that he was prepared to listen to all parties when it comes to solving the wave of violence.
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