The election is more than a year away, the article was about YOUNG people, and Democrats have been massively overperforming in special elections, demonstrating that there's a polling issue right now.
See you in a year.
this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
-38 points (23.6% liked)
politics
19092 readers
4731 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
This is so scarily reminiscent of Dem complacency in 2016. Learn from history lest you be doomed to repeat it. Please.
I'm not suggesting or supporting complacency. We do not have this in the bag, and we had damn well better be prepared to fight every step of the way, because progress is an existential threat to these assholes.
I'm just suggesting that we don't get cynical and apathetic, either. We can and will win if we don't give up, but cynicism and apathy are just as much the enemy as complacency.
Your entire post is supporting complacency.
No it wasn't, it was fighting misinformation (the article in question had been specifically about young voters, not the overall electorate), and against ridiculous dooming. We have no reason to lose hope right now or declare the election over more than year before it even happens.
I'm not telling you to lose hope. I'm asking people to avoid the same lazy complacency that handed Trump the presidency in 2016. Trump fans will vote. Dems have got to get the turnout to beat them.
Well, then you and I are in 100% agreement, and I'm sorry if my attempt to counter a doom-filled narrative came off as complacency. It wasn't my intent in the slightest.
this isnt a second poll clustering with the first one. its the same poll people were talking about on sunday, when it came out: https://nypost.com/2023/09/24/trump-scores-10-point-lead-over-biden-poll/
Polls have been off the past few elections. Polls said Romney, Clinton, and Trump would win the last three elections. Soooooo Ya let's not put too much weight in these.
This simply isn't true.
There's a trend there we should all pay attention to.
Not saying don't be vigilant when it comes to voting but polling is still using 1940s rationalization when it comes to who they poll. Young people don't pick up calls, so they are vastly under counted here.
I feel this needs to be said every time there's a national poll like this...
We don't have national elections. We have a bunch of state by state elections, and as Al Gore and Hilary Clinton proved, it doesn't matter how many people vote for you if you don't win the right states.
We won't really know the score until the Republican primaries and we can compare the votes in 2016 and 2020 vs. now.
I've got a chart ready to go, I just need numbers. 2016 Trump Primary vs. 2016 Trump General vs. 2020 General vs. 2024 Primary.
Every republican I talk to says they want Biden out, but they aren't supporting Trump, cause "he turned out to be as crazy as the democrats".
"I don't like him, but I feel like I'd have to hold my nose and vote for him..."
We like Biden almost exactly as much as we liked Hilary. Meaning, the vast majority of us don't because they are soulless life long party politicians.
At least Biden doesn't need to overcome the fact that he was a life long Republican until his wife became president, then he was suddenly a democrat with no noticeable policy changes.
The American people are done with Republicans and Democrats (IE: The Party), and Trump has carried over a ton of Republicans into his currently non-party camp.
I think Biden is going to go up against a new dumbass, and Trump might get through to end America.
Bernie should have never kissed the Democrat ring.