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More than 12 hours after a Muslim family was struck by a truck in London on June 6, 2021, their accused killer sat shivering in a police interrogation room, telling a detective he didn't have particularly strong connections with anyone. The police video was shown Monday at the murder-terror trial of Nathaniel Veltman in an Ontario court in Windsor.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This part is a little disturbing:

In the footage, the accused says, "I would say I didn't feel like I had much to lose at all. If I did, I wouldn't have done it because there would have been someone else, but I didn't have much to lose."

Veltman said he spent a lot of time on the internet doing "research" about what he called media dishonesty and the role of Western governments in covering up crimes committed by minorities against white people. Even online, the accused said, he didn't interact with people who shared his views because he was worried about being put on a government watch list.

[–] cheese_greater 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People like that should really join Lemmy and learn how research and discourse is actually effectively done. Not to say its always bulletproof or we're not prone to our particular biases, but this horseshit+pisspoor bastardization of the idea of researching something used by right-wing dickheads "just asking [retarded loaded] questions" needs to stop.

Its getting people killed and radicalized to a side that literalky could not give two shits about them and will discard them economicalky and politically at the leveraged buyout of a hat.

[–] dangblingus 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Doing your own research gets you nowhere if the only websites you know are 8chan and the like.

[–] ProvableGecko 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater 1 points 1 year ago

They need stochastic punches in the face after they have been reasoned with and fail to reevaluate

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I researched and wrote a causal essay about mass shootings for school a few years ago and feelings of alienation and intense loneliness were the most commonly shared traits across all shooters.

We're an increasingly isolated global society, divided by extreme groups, and constantly bombarded by negativity online. It's incredibly unhealthy. Since the advent of social media, the lives a lot of people live are no lives at all, compared to what they used to be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We are taught how to suspend our empathy from a very early age. We are never encouraged to use it. This is necessary because we live in a culture that partakes in casual cruelty and violence at every single meal. People with empathy have to suffer the pain that we inflict on others. Rather than teaching people how to cope with that suffering, or how to live in a way that doesn't inflict suffering on others, we teach our children how to maim their own compassion.

[–] Astroturfed 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly surprised more people aren't commiting acts of domestic terrorist or other disturbed shit more often. We're increasingly isolated, with little hope of a better future. Lowering standards of living and many folks feeling like there isn't much to live for. This guy was a racist, but just in general. If I got a cancer diagnosis without insurance (US citizen) I'd be doing something super fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


More than 12 hours after a Muslim family was struck by a truck in London, Ont., on June 6, 2021, their accused killer sat shivering in a police interrogation room, telling a detective he didn't have particularly strong connections with anyone in his life.

Veltman said he spent a lot of time on the internet doing "research" about what he called media dishonesty and the role of Western governments in covering up crimes committed by minorities against white people.

Even online, the accused said, he didn't interact with people who shared his views because he was worried about being put on a government watch list.

Bourdeau had interviewed the accused — the detective balked when defence lawyer Christopher Hicks suggested it was an interrogation — two separate times following the attack: for about 2½ hours until close to 4 a.m., and again starting at around 9:30 a.m.

Bourdeau denied Hicks's suggestions that the overnight interview was an attempt to keep the accused "as uncomfortable as possible: giving [those in custody] no food, no water, a cement bed, keep them cold."

In it, the accused appears confident and happy to talk about his motivations for killing the family, including revenge and to send a warning to others who practise Islam.


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