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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld
 

We know most of you were thrilled about our Discord server, so we decided to make you even happier with our very own space on matrix!

And lastly, this one is more for admins of other instances but we have opened a "LW Defense HQ" room which we want to use in our ongoing fight against spammers: https://matrix.to/#/#defense:lemmy.world

Come join us!

EDIT: Madlad @[email protected] was easily convinced to set up a lemmy.world matrix server. So I edited the links to the new space and rooms. The old ones still work too!

That means you can now also sign up for a Lemmy World matrix account. Instructions in this comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/3443207

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[–] Steveanonymous 109 points 1 year ago (5 children)

One of the things I love about Lemmy is finding out about new things. Now I get to figure out what matrix is!!!

[–] asdfasdfasdf 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same idea as Lemmy except for chat. Basically Reddit is to Lemmy as Slack / Discord is to Matrix. One minor detail is Matrix is actually the protocol, so it's more like ActivityPub (which is Lemmy's protocol), and there are specific apps for Matrix which use that protocol.

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[–] lwadmin 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

No, it has some differences. We don't have channels but spaces, which in discord terms are groups of different discord "servers". For example you can create a Lemmy space with different rooms (matrix equivalent of discord servers) like general, coding, fediverse etc. Inside the Lemmy space. Currently video calls are a bit finicky but it's still pretty good. Especially with E2E. For a complete clone you can use rocket.chat

[–] antik 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Steveanonymous 7 points 1 year ago

Lol sweet. I will set it up after work.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can even add your Matrix account in your Lemmy settings so that other users can DM you securely through Matrix, not the Lemmy or Matrix admins will be able to read messages sent through that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I had no idea that’s what it was for. I hadn’t added mine for fear of spam but this makes way more sense now.

[–] kaotic 7 points 1 year ago

It’s a modern IRC.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Did you know you can bridge matrix to discord? So your discord users can talk to your matrix users?

[–] antik 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah I'm aware but we haven't given it a try yet. Does it work well and is it for room/channel or server/space?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

it's for channel - room communication. It works well, unless you have a spam problem on matrix because then they bypass the anti-spam protections of discord. but if you don't have a spam problem, it's great

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[–] dipshit 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes but no. Yes, technically possible. No, I don’t think it’s what you’re looking for - you’d want to create your own bot for your own account (each user needs its own bot), and it’s technically against Discord TOS to use, so use at your own risk.

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[–] 13p 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is so cool, I'm gonna have to try Matrix

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[–] MargotRobbie 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Minecraft server next. πŸ˜ƒ

[–] Donebrach 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't know me, but I've seen you on TV (well more accurately Lemmy)--what a great idea!

[–] MargotRobbie 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen me in the movie theater recently yet? I can't promote it, but the movie is still playing.

[–] Donebrach 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No I don’t own a movie theater unfortunately.

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[–] obinice 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh, I guess I should find out what Matrix is!

It's got an ominous name for sure xD but then Discord isn't exactly a happy name either :P

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's an open source group text chat protocol, with multiple apps/programs you can use it with

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess it's just a federated version of Discord.

[–] dipshit 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

But open source. Not owned and operated by one company.

Discord is garbage.

[–] dual_sport_dork 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean you don't like having to pay for Nitro just to make your profile icon an animated .gif, a feature which costs the developers literally nothing?

...Yeah, me neither.

[–] pathief 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I honestly think it's nice. You're paying for mostly cosmetic stuff and the core Discord experience is unaffected.

I'm not sure if they suck or have shady businesses, but I have never felt the desire to pay for Nitro. I hope they manage to get profit with such an unremarkable set of perks.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congrats! You're really giving folks all the options!

[–] antik 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes we put in some effort!

[–] Resol 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is Matrix just a fediverse equivalent to Discord?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it's not called fediverse specifically in the case of Matrix. But yeah, it is a federated alternative to Discord.

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[–] freamon 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I've not had any luck joining any of these rooms. I click the link, continue with Element (the web app), I can see that I'm logged in and can access a room I've already joined (for moderating another community), but for these rooms, I'm just getting:

#lwgeneral:h-y-p-e-r.space is not accessible at this time.
Try again later, or ask a room or space admin to check if you have access.
M_UNKNOWN was returned while trying to access the room or space.
If you think you're seeing this message in error, please submit a bug report.

EDIT: the updated links work for me now!

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[–] mypasswordis1234 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point there should be a brand-new domain: matrix.world 😎

[–] antik 15 points 1 year ago

Which wasn't available 😭

[–] MossBear 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what's the quick bullet point version of how Matrix works? Are there instance like Lemmy? If so, what are the best ones?

[–] lwadmin 24 points 1 year ago
  • Go to https://app.element.io/#/register
  • Click on Edit next to matrix.org
  • Other homeserver: lemmy.world
  • Click Continue
  • Enter Username, Password and Email
  • Click Register

You now have a cool @lemmy.world matrix account. From there you can join rooms by clicking the links in the top post.

[–] ruud 9 points 1 year ago

I just setup a matrix server at lemmy.world, so just register an account on that if you like ;-)

[–] CynicRaven 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm set up using Beeper for consolidation of a lot of my messaging platforms, and they support Matrix. That said, I'm not having any success in finding the listed spaces from the urls in the original post. Is there some kind of federation that needs to take place for this to be possible or, I dunno, is there some extension of Matrix that needs to be supported by Beeper for this to work?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Beeper can be quirky when it comes to joining Matrix channels and it doesn't support Matrix Spaces. You'll have to join the individual channels via the desktop Beeper app.

[–] AProfessional 7 points 1 year ago

Beeper doesn’t just support Matrix, it literally is a Matrix client and server.

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[–] Carighan 8 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest, as always I prefer to get status updates on Mastodon and beyond that, Lemmy isn't a chat system for me, it's more of a forum-style interaction system.

But hey, I can see the need for chat in particular for mods, so cheers! πŸ₯‚

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