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[–] DarthBueller 98 points 9 months ago (7 children)

You know how they seal kids teeth, and insurance covers it? It basically keeps kids from getting cavities until the sealant eventually wears off. Well, they could put the same sealant on adults. But they don’t.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

I've lived in at least two places where that treatment is available for adults. Insurance may cover it depending on what kind of insurance you got, it is expensive but not ridiculously so in comparison to other dental procedures.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Uh, no, i don't. Sounds weird, where do they do this?

[–] DarthBueller 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had it done in the USA in the 90s when I had my adult teeth, not sure if it was before or after I got my 12 year molars. I asked about it a few years ago and the dentist said that insurance only covers it for kids.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

What do they use for sealing? I'm swiss and we don't do this. Is it because you have corn sirup everywhere?

edit: so, uh, is this widespread?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I'm German and this is definitely also done here

[–] DarthBueller 6 points 9 months ago

I have no idea. It’s white and it cures hard with exposure to UV light. It might just be filling media used as a surface sealant—not a dentist, sorry.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarthBueller 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It covers the top of the teeth kids still need to brush really well because you can easily get cavities in between your teeth, etc..

[–] robbotlove 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

is that the mouthgaurd filled with flavored goo that you have to keep in your mouth for 29 minutes while you drool all over yourself?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fuck_u_spez_ 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you're basically supposed to do the same thing twice a day with your toothpaste, which is why the tube says "spit out after brushing" and not "make a little cup with your hand and use it to swish some water from the sink around in your mouth, rinsing most of the fluoride off before it has a chance to work".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Buy better tasting toothpaste

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[–] bluebooby 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My wife works in dental insurance so I asked her. She said for the general public, the effectiveness of the sealant decreases as the client ages, because an adult's tooth is more smooth than a child's. So there's a critical age where the cons outweighs the pros.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's useful in immature teeth because the grooves have not yet taken up enough fluoride to be acid resistant enough against the modern diet. Not all immature teeth need them either, as not everyone has those deep grooves. Furthermore, this only protects against decay on that surface if it's done well - and a lot of the time a wriggly kid means saliva has contaminated the surface and now you have an extra interface of failure.

In adults the benefit is a lot less (if the groove was decay prone, they would have formed a cavity there by the time they see a dentist), and doing this procedure may actually increase the risk of decay than reduce (due to the extra interface of failure).

Lastly, this only protects that surface - not in between teeth. A lot of cavities happen between because there's a lot of plaque being left behind there... Because almost nobody flosses properly.

Use your interdental brushes folks! And stop drinking soda... And use extra high fluoride toothpaste.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

One of the reasons we don't seal adult teeth is because insurance doesn't cover it and people don't want to pay for it (there are other reasons like prior fillings, loss of tooth structure, groove being less prominent, etc). If someone asks for it to be done and agrees to pay out of pocket we'll definitely do it.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I was curious about which compound and where it occurs, the article didn't contain the latter. This is the compound's Wikipedia article which provides that info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,3%27-Diindolylmethane

[–] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago (3 children)

found in cruciferous vegetables, such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage and kale.

That explains a lot

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Oui chef! I also found that its already being sold as a dietary supplement interesting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Even a 90% chance of a reduction in cavities and plaque could not get me to eat kale.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If I'm reading this right, it's a digested form of something else in those vegetables. So adding broccoli to toothpaste isn't going to cut it. (Although I'm sure some brand on IG is already manufacturing that)

[–] doublejay1999 47 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It’s 2023, how they ain’t got pills make your teeth grow back ??

[–] twelvefloatinghands 22 points 9 months ago

Is pill. Goes past teeth.

[–] Touching_Grass 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same with skin dermatology type conditions. How they fuck do we not have a pill or cream to cure itchy scalp. Why do I need to use expensive shampoos every two days the rest of my life or else I scratch my dandruffy scalp until it bleeds because there's some fungus I now have to deal with until my immune system gets so old that the fungus takes over

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This probably won't help you but I'm saying it anyway just in case it does help.

I dealt with something similar for over a year that just wouldn't get better even after I tried all the dandruff shampoos I could find at the store. My doctor prescribed this lotion called taro-mometasone (I think?) and within a week the dandruff was gone and it never came back. This was about 7 years ago, and I haven't used the lotion since. And it was awful dandruff. It was becoming like scabs on my head and my hair was starting to fall out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It's not long ago I saw a article about regrowth of theeth, but it was not a pill.

[–] Mindlight 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We do but Illuminati made sure it's only available to about 1% of the population....

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Diindolylmethane might act like estrogen in the body, or might also block estrogen effects. So more research is necessary.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I will sacrifice myself and get titties as long as I have good teeth!

edit who am I kidding, I already have removedtiddies

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You ran right into the slur filter of lemmy.ml :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

ahh that makes sense now.. I was wondering wtf are removedtitties. I thought they were talking about a mastectomy or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't get what it's supposed to be. Can you spell it out for me with a between every letter or something to defeat the filter?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the guy who wrote it, but if I had to guess he probably meant bi.tchtiddies?

The slur filter on lemmy.ml is weird, that's why I changed instances.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

DIM doesn’t increase estrogen, it reduces it. It forces the body to metabolize estradiol into 2-hydroxyestrone, which cannot be converted back to estradiol and has lower binding affinity, so it just gets pissed out. It’s often used for breast and thyroid cancer treatments.

So yeah, this could be really bad for women.

[–] db2 5 points 9 months ago

Robert Paulson, is that you?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s amazing what mankind has achieved in vitro.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Thanks, couldn’t find it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

OMG I choked so hard!

[–] Tylerdurdon 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How long until dentists call it fake?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You sound like an anti-dentite!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I think his name is Al. Al Dentay.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I did not need to see that gross picture today thanks for nightmare fuel

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Mmmkay, but what about tooth decay, mmkay?

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