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Charlie Jane Anders discusses KOSA (the Kids Online Safety Act).

If you're in the US, https://www.stopkosa.com/ makes it easy to contact your Senators and ask them to oppose KOSA.

"A new bill called the Kids Online Safety Act, or KOSA, is sailing towards passage in the Senate with bipartisa>n support. Among other things, this bill would give the attorney general of every state, including red states, the right to sue Internet platforms if they allow any content that is deemed harmful to minors. This clause is so vaguely defined that attorneys general can absolutely claim that queer content violates it — and they don't even need to win these lawsuits in order to prevail. They might not even need to file a lawsuit, in fact. The mere threat of an expensive, grueling legal battle will be enough to make almost every Internet platform begin to scrub anything related to queer people.

The right wing Heritage Foundation has already stated publicly that the GOP will use this provision to remove any discussions of trans or queer lives from the Internet. They're salivating over the prospect.

And yep, I did say this bill has bipartisan support. Many Democrats have already signed on as co-sponsors. And President Joe Biden has urged lawmakers to pass this bill in the strongest possible terms."

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More of them “freedoms” that you yanks are always going on about?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, no, it's "free dumbs". As in, they were giving away stupidity for free, so we each took as much as we could carry.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Experiencing a protracted regression of sanity, similar to Brexit.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah yes.. forever and again, the siren song of children being used as an excuse for draconian, rights eroding legislation.. its amazing how much responsibility parents have shirked to the state as they replace babysitters with cellphones and tablets.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, children security. Of course.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m shocked that the first openly gay senator Tammy Baldwin is a co-sponsor for the bill. You bet I’m writing her.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And then everybody slaps a "Only for 18+, fill in your birth day" on their site and nobody can legally claim it's harming children.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And suddenly everyone was born on Jan 1st, 2000

[–] sunbytes 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not doing maths to keep it at 18 each year.

I do 1900 lol

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You still live in 2018?

People born in 2000 are 23

[–] sunbytes 31 points 1 year ago

I didn't say I was going to do maths for you either ;)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I'm well over 18 and I give the year field a good scroll down to be like 80y/o because it's such a bother to click 3 sliders. F that.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is how it works on YouTube now, the rules for kids content are draconic and you risk your account, so everybody just says "this is not for kids" on all videos.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Which you will need to prove by sending your personal identification to a commercial third party provider. Who will eventually get hacked and your data will be leaked.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this is just ONE of MANY bad internet bills currently up for consideration and with bipartisan support. Help fight all of them at https://badinternetbills.com

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

!bad_[email protected] is tracking all the bad internet bills ... right now KOSA's where the most action is.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The internet is about to move to the rest of the world if this passes, no one will host a web server in the US after this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The problem is where? The EU is trying to apply similar censorship via the DSA, Russia we all know is LGBTphobic and not truly for free speech, Canada is a joke, and China is lol. Not even sure if Japan is viable.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I don't know how American voters can stand for this, how can you re-elect people who cause your children to get shot in schools and believe the same people have set out to protect them with things like these?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

A lot of them are really stupid hateful racists. They are figuratively and literally shooting themselves in the foot.

[–] dion_starfire 21 points 1 year ago

Because the way voting works in the US is based on assumptions from the days when getting all the votes together to tally them would have been a logistical nightmare. Instead of counting everyone's vote individually, the map is divided into regions. Each region tallies up their votes, and then one single vote is counted for that entire region based on the majority vote from that region. Those regional votes are tallied, and the majority winner of the regions gets the win. By drawing the regions correctly (a process called gerrymandering), you can put the majority of one party's voters into a small handful of regions, so all of them only count as a handful of regional votes while making sure the rest of the regions are drawn to give the other party a 51%+ majority. As a result, it's possible to have a candidate that would garner less than 50% of the individual votes win a landslide of over 75% of the regional votes.

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[–] silentdon 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you oppose this? Don't you want children to be safe online? Won't anybody please think of the children? /s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

"Why would you oppose this? What are you a pedo????" /sarcasm

[–] Daft_ish 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

This is exactly the bullshit policy Biden sticks his dick into everytime. I really don't want to hate the guy but what a fucking idiot.

Biden being anything but conservative lite is just the fucking truth.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From my outside perspective the whole democratic party is conservative lite.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Think of the children" is such a dumb excuse that people keep using in the US to pass laws that restricts citizens and are anti-privacy.

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[–] RagingRobot 33 points 1 year ago

Why would a state attorney generally have any oversight over the content of the internet? That seems way out of scope for their job

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I live in a backwards, ignorant red state represented by complete idiots. The last time I wrote to my representatives asking them to oppose something like this they wrote back saying "the agree fully" and then went on to explain that they would definitely support it and thanked me for backing them... Then went on to show a complete lack of understanding of the bill in question.

And I've been on his email list ever since despite clicking unsubscribe probably 30 times. The crusty sock puppet probably thinks that means "show me more" based on how he responded to my initial email.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know if I'm in the right here but I'm practically at the point where I'm just like fuck it, let them ruin the internet.

I want to hear them scream when because of their own actions they have tanked the companies that their retirements are depending on.

Let's see how fast they can fix shit when they have 35 million angry retirees that hold 78% of the wealth in the country mad at them and telling them to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

American here, and I am totally OK with a tiny bit of extra latency if people & companies want to move their servers to some place in Europe that actually respects freedom and people.

Though I suspect that if you’re a US company with servers located abroad, they will still make the law apply to you since you control it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I emailed my senators, both Democrats. One wrote me back telling me how proud they were of co-sponsoring the bill. The other told me how important it is to protect kids from the dangers of social media. WTF.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

WTF indeed. But, thanks for emailing them -- they track how much email they get in each direction, and if there's enough they may rethink their position.

[–] obinice 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for noting the US focus in the title <3

So often I see sweeping headlines like this that are actually only about a single country, and the country is always named (as it's a key piece of information about the story) unless it's the USA, at which point they just assume you must be in the USA too and so being up front about what country they're talking about isn't a priority xD

[–] BangersAndMash 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unfortunately this is about the first time, I'd (almost) disagree with you. If the US bans something on, or makes a law about, the internet it almost always affects the rest of the world. The only difference is the rest of the world has no say in the matter :(

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

"would give the attorney general of every state, including red states, the right to sue"

What a weird distinction to make. I know they're getting squirrelly, but they still technically count in the "every state" column.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would appreciate governments, especially the American government, refraining from passing laws "for the children". They never are. They never work. They are a scam that gives the appearance of being beneficial to all while only benefiting a few. They accomplish nothing the scam indicates it will and instead turns out to be another overreach of government power.

No more "for the children" nonsense from any government - it's not about them and you know it.

You want to pass something for the good of the children? GET RID OF THE GODDAM GUNS.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Donate to the EFF.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Ooooh... the liberals are about to hand the fascists the keys to the tanks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Screw both parties and Joe Biden in particular. I'll be asking my senators to oppose this, though I highly doubt it'll matter.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

If you live in CT contact Blumenthal and Murphy, this is Blumenthals bill... try to get Murph to put pressure on Blumenthal, at least Murph isn't a politcal fox.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

How is this line up with 'liberty'? The US gov can't stop intruding into the private sphere.

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