Good, it's about time. Tritiated water just isn't dangerous. The ocean naturally contains billions of tons of URANIUM. A few kilograms of short lived tritium isn't going to matter at all.
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
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Finally someone who understands it's not as scary as news want it to sound like.
I mean, it's a lot of water they're releasing.
However, the water they're releasing it into is a LOT of water.
Maybe all the scare-people are homeopathy-lovers and hence think that the oceans will become utterly radioactive due to some water memory nonsense shit?
Always wondered about how homeopathy people don't realize that all of the water in this world at one point went through someone's ass. How come it doesn't have a memory of that?
Nobody gave their ass-water the required number of magical shakes. Homeopathy predates twerking.
That's actually a selling point.
You could be right though. Secret fetish of thousands.
Wait I get that the ocean is gigantic but billions of tons?
Yep. Best estimate I have seen is 4.5 billion tons of uranium. Course, most of the natural radioactivity of our ocean is from potassium, actually. But either way, natural levels of radioactivity will not change.
4 billion tons at 3 ppb... It's so much water, don't try to drink it either.
For anyone curious:
From Wikipedia:
The total mass of Earth's hydrosphere is about 1.4 × 10^18 tonnes, which is about 0.023% of Earth's total mass.
Better yet, the water they're releasing has less tritium in it than average ocean water, so releasing it will actually be an improvement for the ocean (190 vs avg of 500 of some unit)
This is what I’ve heard too. It’s really no big deal. Concerned local fishermen are probably just not introduced to the physics of this. In general, humans tend to worry a bit more about radioactivity than necessary. This in particular will be diluted into basically nothing. The only real problem is the PR work that lies ahead for them. In practice, their people should probably be more concerned about constantly dying early from pollution and protest more about that.
People really need to educate themselves before protesting. There's plenty of actually bad shit to protest, like South Korea's ridiculous work ethics.
Don't even have to look so far. Japan's work ethic is awful, suicide rates are high and because of this the birth rate is declining.
I was very suspicious on China's remarks as they have a track record of doing PR for themselves and no one else.
Or in terms of actual nuclear containment issues:
We really need to clean it up properly, not to mention take care of the people impacted by it's creation.
Though with the Tomb, this passage from Wikipedia should be kept in mind:
However, the soil around the dome was found to be more contaminated than its contents, so a breach could not increase the radiation levels by any means. Because the cleaning operation in the 1970s only removed an estimated 0.8 percent of the total transuranic waste in the Enewetak atoll, the soil and the lagoon water surrounding the structure now contain a higher level of radioactivity than the debris of the dome itself, so even in the event of a total collapse, the radiation dose delivered to the local resident population or marine environment should not change significantly.
This only makes the whole thing more fucked up, but at least the tomb itself isn't quite as bad as it sounded when I started reading up about it. By virtue of everything else being much worse. Fuck. I think that's enough internet for today. :'(
If you wantwd to do some further watching on the subject, here's a great video on the Marshall Islands and their current state of affairs in regards to the Tomb and climate change
linky link to an ABC News video
Just a warning though, it's a pretty frustrating and depressing situation.
Also the video is like 40 minutes long.
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Don't tell the people fighting this about coal power plants and other things that actually fuck the environment and kill us.
It'll be fine. Like, virtually harmless, kinda fine.
I'll take 5 litres please, how much?
When you're so salty that you drink sea water!
This news article doesn't have the dates announced, but bloomberg does.
I didn't want to post something with a paywall.
Update: I have now learned about archiving, the correct article is posted
Post it with an archive link
12ft.io works well. Not sure if a bot could auto generate known paywall sites?