this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2023
334 points (98.8% liked)

Asklemmy

44151 readers
1752 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Learned the term recently and really enjoy it, subscription fatigue is the feeling we all have had now where we are just over how everything is subscription based.

Which one was the last straw or most annoying/frustrating to you?

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When my paid Paramount+ subscription included unskippable ads.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I loathe the trend where I pay money and they still expect me to sit through ads. That's why we all left cable to start with.

[–] emogu 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’ll really aggravate you is that way back when cable was first rolling out, it was billed as paid TV service without ads (as opposed to the ad-supported OTA local networks). Obviously that promise didn’t last long.

It’s a tale as old as time. Its happened before, it’s happening now, and it’ll happen again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Why limit yourself to subscriptions if you can do both and earn even more money? πŸ€‘

PS: Microsoft perfected this with Windows bloat ware, adverts and tracking. Why did they need to integrate that, if you already paid ca. 150€ (Home) or 250€ (Pro) for a licence? Those prices are integrated into the prices of hardware purchases too, in case anyone is wondering. Purchase a laptop without an OS and it’s generally about 100-150€ cheaper. Anyone interested in Microsoft 365 and Windows 365?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

by the time I had my own money I didn't even think of getting pay tv because it was already running more ads than free to air.

Never had subscription fatigue because paid services have never been better than the free option in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

What's the point of paying for a subscription if you still get ads 🀷🏻

Marvelous strategy model.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Adobe Reader needing a 5€ subscription for rotating pages. Fuck techno feudalism.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh my god I didn't even know about that one. Why?? Browsers read them fine

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reading a PDF is something, editing is a whole other thing. For a while I had an Adobe Reader subscription it was the only one I know of that can edit a pdf were I can delete entire columns from a table. (It was a PDF generated by shitty sales software I was using)

[–] zakobjoa 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly edit PDFs to fill out documents. I know browsers can do that but they don't save the progress until you download (or I'm to stupid). Recently found out that Google Drive has a "fill form" PDF editor that works pretty well. But to my blood pressures detriment that works only on Android and not in your browser where I have a proper keyboard. Google fucking enrages me with their complete arbitrary shit sometimes.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Stovetop 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The default Preview app on Macs can rotate PDFs by default...but if your PDF is a fillable form, it'll fuck it all up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Mac preview is surprisingly one of the best PDF viewing applications available on the market, it’s nearly as good as Acrobat. That’s really strange to me

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago

Alarm clock apps that require a subscription. Basically any app that doesn’t require backend server infrastructure to function should not be subscription based.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It started with the Netflix enshittification. I have had a Spotify and Netflix account essentially since these services were available, and that was great. Now only the Spotify sub is worth it, though I started to loathe that one as well because it at some point deleted all my local files or replaced them with what it thought matched them in their database.

Also every fucking app, no matter how mundane, wants to sell me a subscription. I have a web based game boy emulator on my phone, it works fine but everything beyond the absolute basic functions is paywalled behind a subscription. Not even a one time purchase.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bro. RetroArch, gambatte or MGBA core. Thank me later.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Netflix, and when they said I'd have to pay for password sharing for my stepkids, because they use my account when they're at their dad's.

That was the last straw. I cracked the shits, bought a couple of ex-enterprise servers, and setup ... something different. I then cancelled all streaming services (I got wind of the second Disney hike coming).

The cool thing is they now email me with cheap rejoin offers, telling me about all the cool shows I need to be aware of. ;)

[–] zakobjoa 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

How are your kids coping with, uh, something different? I imagine it's a tad less convenient, even with your server. Also, I haven't done something different since the rise of Netflix. Is the quality of something different generally higher with streaming services just putting their content on the internet themselves?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I admit, last time I tried something different years ago, it wasn't that good, but thought I'd give it another go. I'd bought a lifetime pass way back, so had nothing to lose by trying.

The kids are coping fine - the apps for something different are all pretty rock-solid now - macOS, iOS, Android, Chromecast GTV. Plus I'm on a decent fibre internet connection, so even full high quality things work just fine when they're not at home. Honestly, there's not a lot of difference, except my catalogue of things is better than any single service.

Plus I take requests. :D Actually, I allow automated processing of requests, within certain limits.

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TheyKeepOnRising 59 points 1 year ago

I think the one that did it for me was Xbox game pass. I've never been much of a fan of digital games, but Xbox game pass made me see what the future of games will be.

You will pay an ever increasing amount per month to play whatever Microsoft or whoever decides you can be allowed to play. You will own nothing you play and if you cancel your subscription, your console is worthless. Meanwhile the service will be crammed with ads, the games themselves crammed with ads, and your data harvested and sold for "personalized" ads.

I only buy physical games now.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Man, I already had subscription fatigue with the very first thing I subscribed to with my own money as a kid. Ultima Online. My friend recommended the game to me, not telling me it required a subscription. I bought a boxed copy at the store, not seeing the super tiny print where it mentioned the subscription. I was then upset when I was installing it and it asked for a CC#. I was 12. I didn't have a credit card. I had to ask my dad to set it up and give up my allowance for it.

As soon as I found out about emulated shards (shards being what servers were called) that were totally free, I started playing on those. And having way more fun because they kept the game the way I liked it, while EA kept trying to make it more like WoW.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Man I can't imagine getting a game that young and finding out after the fact that I'd had to give all my allowance to play it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similar story here, but it was EverQuest.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] expatriado 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i cancelled youtube premium when they removed dislike count from view, i felt that i was getting a inferior product once they removed that tool from me, it wasn't worth paying

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Around the time when netflix started to suck, and new subacription services popped up everywhere.

Then a lot of other things that shouldnt rely on a aubscription started getting it. Random apps with a pro mode. The pro mode was now a subscription... its dreadful.

I refuse to get a subscription i would "need" to keep around fpr years.

Here we have 1 video streaming service for a month or two every once in a while. Never two at the same time.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I never made it past Netflix. Once the quality started sliding and prices went up, it was back to the high seas for me. I guess I still have to pay for a VPN service though 🀷

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] dantheclamman 30 points 1 year ago

I've observed how these streaming services engage in borderline elder abuse. They make it extremely easy to sign up, and then to cancel, they require clicking through five different settings pages with tiny buttons and dark patterns. They obscure what each charge is on billing statements, and they are constantly increasing price, merging with each other, which creates confusion. I've had to help elder family and friends get out of subscriptions so many times, and each time, I essentially have to audit what they're paying for. I think the Feds should mandate that every website has a giant red "Cancel subscription" button in the corner. The FTC is working on something like that, but it is unclear what it will look like in the final version.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Not really a discovery, bug when Disney Plus made their base subscription have adds like Hulu and then made the add free version double the price. The "Disney bundle" was $12 a month when it released. Now it's $20 just to get Hulu and D+ without adds. I hold the star wars franchise pretty close, but I'm gonna have wait to see Ahsoka.

Either that or it's time to get the paper hat out πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I couldn't just purchase a season of a tv show (Drag Race). You should just be able to buy a show or movie if you want to watch it.

The most recent season was exclusively on Paramount +. I guess they had exclusive right because it wasn't available anywhere else. It was 3.99/month with a discount so I figured I'd keep it as long as the season aired. I was fucking amazed that there could be twenty fucking commercials in an hour show. If I wanted to skip backward or forward I had to watch three more ads first. Two weeks before the season finale they raised the price to 5.99 so I cancelled it. I didn't need to watch it that badly. Their other content was shit, all nineties MTV and made for tv movies. When I signed up they advertised Yellowjackets so I was going to watch that. But no, that's another subscription to Showtime.

It was the cheapest subscription I've had but the most aggravating experience, because it's not about the money. It's about feeling like I'm getting fucked over with every goddamn thing I buy lately.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Old school runescape charging $120 a year. I get that they make new content but that's the cost of a AAA game each year.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pro-tip if you're sick of paying for streaming: Stremio (app--I run on NVIDIA Shield) + Torrentio. Totally free and will have everything you ever need. For a few dollars, Real-Debrid adds more/faster stream options, but it's purely optional/nice-to-have.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would counter-argue for Jellyfin + Radarr-suite. I just like better Jellyfin's interface.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I feel like I've avoided subscriptions for the most part, except for basics like rent, energy, telephony, a travel card. The software I use is mostly open-source (some of which I voluntary support on a monthly basis). I don't need paid streaming because public TV streaming is good enough for shows/movies and YouTube with ad-block is good enough for music. I don't game.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I had it when Adobe started it with their suite. Let me just buy access to a major version and all patches and minor upgrades.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] cedarmesa 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sublime Text 4 going subscription based instead of major release based. I downgraded back to ST3 and am keeping my lifetime license on that one. The alternative is a 3 year usage license which is trash for the price you need to pay

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Spotify. It is a mirror of my Youtube Premium and Youtube gives me better value. So I ditched Spotify.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paramount +. I love Stat Trek, but I'm not paying for one service to watch 20 - 30 new eps a year of one franchise. Even more egregious is they were so slow rolling out in the UK, half their shows were spread across Netflix and Amazon already, if they pull them from there, I'm just torrenting.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Netflix. Price hikes with lesser content that no one in my house wants to watch. Subcriptions for occasional use stuff been purged since that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

netflix in 2016/17 when they upped the rates AND made vpn=ing much harder.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The phone game. Egg inc. It just updated offering a subscription for in game bonuses.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm subbed to YT premium, Spotify, and Amazon Prime. I primarily use Steam. I pirate via torrents for movies and series. No streaming services interest me. I've used a free trial for Netflix way back when and I was disappointed that some content was not available to download for offline viewing. With torrenting I can watch content in a better quality, I don't have to worry about buffering, I don't have to worry about discs and menus, etc. All I really want is just the mkv file and that's it.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Sterile_Technique 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My first subscription was World of Warcraft, back in vanilla and when I was a dipshit high schooler only starting to get a feel for things like managing money.

And even then, right out the gate it felt like bullshit. Did it anyway cuz peer pressure, but back then and ever since, subscriptions almost all feel like blatant ripoffs.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not subscription, but the first service I thought "wtf is this money-making model?" was Plants vs Zombies 2. The game wasn't that good. And, oh, my most recent guilty pleasure is Monopoly Go; it's entertainingly boring?

Apart from that, I've tried to keep subscriptions that I really like or use constantly:

  • ~~UberPass~~ Uber One (mainly for when depression hits)
  • Deezer (just because I get 20% discount)
  • Kagi (first month atm, but it has a minimum % of trash results)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sosodev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I’m in the minority because I don’t mind subscriptions much. If I think it’s unreasonable I just won’t pay for it. Nobody is forcing me to.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next β€Ί