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[–] FantasticFox 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think we'll see another spike when the third-party apps are actually shut down.

[–] MicroWave 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Be prepared to answer so many questions from newcomers.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

That's why I'm here, the third party app I use is about to be shut down.

[–] puck2 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TrickyCamel 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Definitely, I remember mayayo (Boost's dev) commenting that the update he pushed out recently was the last dance or something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't imagine how Boost would survive when many more successful third-party apps are going under.

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[–] Omgarm 58 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I wonder how many people have accidentally signed up for more lemmy instances before they realized that wasn't needed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I signed up for a few different ones trying to find one with policies that I can agree with.

[–] MicroWave 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] ulu_mulu 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm only on one lemmy but I did sign on both lemmy and kbin before realizing they were connected.

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[–] amcjv12 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I love Lemmy, but as others have already said, the vast majority of these signups are likely bots. Pretty spooky.

[–] Master 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bots and multi-accounts. I had one reddit account with no alts. Here I have like 6 accounts because of all the federated / non federated bs.

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[–] PriorProject 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calm down folks, these are bot signups: https://lemm.ee/post/177673

The active user-count increased by ~10% over the last 2d while registered user count increased 400%. The registered user growth is absolutely not "real". Now... 10% over 2d is still massive growth... Lemmy IS growing. But it's not doubling every 24h.

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[–] rist097 39 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think it's just bots. Look at this instance: https://picify.podycust.co.uk/ 7k users, no interactions

[–] MicroWave 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm trying to track where these new accounts are being created, because they're not at top lemmy instances like lemmy.world or beehaw.org, which have validation measures at signup.

[–] 2014MU69 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe most accounts created in the last 48 hours are bot accounts. Here is the list of top 20 fastest growing instances. Looks like 15 out of 20 were created in the last few days and has almost no active users.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@2014MU69 @MicroWave
Lemmy’s first big bot campaign, yay.

Bots only target successful platforms and mastodon has survived many bot campaigns, so I’m not too worried by this. But let’s give a hug to our admins. When all those accounts start spamming, they’ll need to do a lot of mitigation. Especially if the bots come from many different domains. (and also because lemmy moderation tools are not great)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

That instance's real url (at least in the DB) is lemmy.podycust.co.uk. parapheum.com is another one that has a similar situation, they have ~5k new accounts in the past days and very little activity on their instance other than the admins. I have sent messages to the admins of both instances making sure they are aware of the situation...

For fun here are the numbers of their users that show up on my instance (because they have participated somewhere my instance is federated with) compared to beehaw which has about 12.5k users:

lemmy=# select count(*) from person where instance_id = (select id from instance where domain = 'beehaw.org');
 count
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  3496
(1 row)

lemmy=# select count(*) from person where instance_id = (select id from instance where domain = 'lemmy.podycust.co.uk');
 count
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     6
(1 row)

lemmy=# select count(*) from person where instance_id = (select id from instance where domain = 'parapheum.com');
 count
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     3
(1 row)

Seems pretty concerning.

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[–] absquatulate 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no way these are not bot accounts. I heard there's a lot of instances with no sign-up validation that are just being flooded by requests.

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[–] house_of_questions 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hadn't even heard of Lemmy until a few days ago. Maybe it'll ride the momentum. End of the month there will probably be another influx, considering the reddit changes.

Let's hope so! Some of the communities are a bit empty still. Hopefully it'll change. :)

[–] RamesesKnibs 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard of Tildes first. Tried it, didn't get it, didn't like the UI and just gave up on it. Saw someone mention Lemmy in a Reddit thread about the blackouts. Googled it, got confused, went to join, got really confused, made accounts on 3 different instances due to aforementioned confusion, started scrolling, haven't stopped in over a week. I like it here

[–] Hypersapien 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was turned off of Tildes because of the fact that (at least when I tried it) they hadn't implemented automated password changing, you had to message an actual person.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I think a better metric would be the number of comments in the Fediverse. Until bots arrive, that would better estimate the growth of actual userbase.

[–] Donjuanme 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm quite impressed how quickly the site is stabilizing in spite of continuing to grow so rapidly. I'd say it's 10 times more navigable than when I first signed up, and I've only doubled my competency at interfacing with it.

[–] dragontamer 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

IIRC, the Lemmy.world administrators had a big post that basically said: "Woops, we were still in debug-mode when we launched".

When they changed the settings to production-mode sometime this weekend (thereby generating far fewer logs on the server's backend), the response speed of the website went into high-speed.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 18 points 1 year ago

It wasn't just logs. Turning debug off let a lot of the federation functions work in the background instead of causing a long pause every time someone posted, voted, etc.

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[–] Clbull 23 points 1 year ago

I remember the days when everybody flocked to Voat in the midst of the Ellen Pao revolt, and then the site crumpled under its own freaking weight. It's refreshing by comparison to see 360k users flock to Lemmy when the platform struggled to even break over a thousand just three weeks ago.

Spez really screwed the pooch on this one.

[–] faltuuser 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's all bots......(probably)

[–] Argyle13 21 points 1 year ago

Not that sure. Maybe a big chunk of it are, but there is a lot of people like me coming from reddit that signed yesterday, after doing some research and watching how things were here and on kbin.

Regarding the bots issues, new signups at lemmy.world were closed yesterday for several hours because of attempts to create spammy accounts. So maybe a mix of real accounts and spammy ones.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

About 20k are probably from hexbear, which migrated from their own distant fork of lemmy to the current version, so now they show up in a lot of trackers. They still haven't enabled federation yet though.

[–] Protegee9850 15 points 1 year ago

Okay but seriously 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖

[–] political_avacado 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MicroWave 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which website are you using to track that? I'm still seeing 364k.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I think a measure of success is how quality the content is. Even if there was only 2 people on here, If the content was good I would visit every day.

[–] sorenant 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Back in my days we visited forums in personal home pages with about 3-4 strangers and we liked it!

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[–] mikehunt 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember to donate to your instance and the lemmy project if you have the means!

[–] Grant 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was in your comments last night with the 240k and was floored. The fact it jumped overnight by ANOTHER 120k is mind-blowing.

This. Is. Awesome.

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[–] mykl 12 points 1 year ago

Sorry, that was me adding some testing accounts 😔

[–] dan_the_accountant 12 points 1 year ago

Long live Lemmy!

[–] neighbourbehaviour 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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