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AI bots are so good at mimicking the human brain and vision that CAPTCHAs are useless - The bots’ accuracy is up to 15% higher than that of humans::The bots’ accuracy is up to 15% higher than that of humans

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[–] Mojojojo1993 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly sick of captchas. Think because I'm using Firefox with adblockers. I get them anytime I try to visit a site. It's basically making using the Internet a slog.

I'd start creating bots to do them for me. Fucking life

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I too would love a captcha solver extension for Firefox. Those things are getting annoying.

[–] Mojojojo1993 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm maybe it's my vpn causing it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This extension works for Google reCAPTCHA

[–] Mojojojo1993 1 points 1 year ago

Beyond annoying.

[–] lunarul 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sing Tor or a VPN? Sharing the same IP with thousands of other people is something that would lead to getting captchas every time you visit a site. Most sites use Cloudflare or other CDNs, and they see the same IP making tons of requests every second, so they flag it as a potential bot IP and issue the captcha challenge.

[–] Mojojojo1993 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vpn. Proton. Yeah that makes sense. It asks me on certain sites. Cloud flare stuff

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kinda ironic. I use CloudFlare’s own VPN (WARP/1.1.1.1) and I still get CAPTCHAs, arguably more than when I used proton.

[–] Mojojojo1993 1 points 1 year ago

I just got one now using proton. Pretty sure it's that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Weird, I use the same and rarely see them

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

AI bots are not good at mimicking the human brain and vision, they're just good at object recognition

[–] PHLAK 9 points 1 year ago

Which is why they're so good at captchas. Letters and numbers are the objects they're trained to recognize here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah whoever wrote the title really misunderstands ai.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm also not sure if using AI for something like this is cost effective.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wasn't that the entire point of the captcha? It was never intended as a permanent solution. They help train AIs to identify objects and patterns.

[–] lunarul 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That was definitely not the original point of the captcha. It used to be every site implementing their own version, some better than others, but all were just solving something that should be easy for humans and almost impossible for bots. But then Google got the idea of using it for crowdsourcing to help with digitizing books and they launched reCAPTCHA. This was easy to embed on any web page and served a noble purpose, so it quickly became the de facto captcha over much of the web. Fast forward several years and now we're all providing free work in training AI object recognition, a problem AI is already very good at, which means the images we're being given are increasingly more difficult for humans to interpret.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Early forms of captcha were helping to transcribe books.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Those image captchas are useless. “Prove you’re a human by identifying bicycles exactly the same as our AI identified them.” Of course an AI is better than a human at identifying them the same way as an AI.

[–] cosmicboi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's silly, because you can just cycle between captchas until you find one you can actually do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sick of trying to guess random things about American culture.

"Click in all the school bus" it says. How? If it's blue is it a school bus, or is it only the yellow ones that are the school buses, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nice to know that I'm not the only one that finds that annoying.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

So can an AI tell me if a traffic light pole is part of the traffic light or not. Because I never really was sure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Completely unsurprising given that the millions of captchas people have been doing for the past like 15 years have been being used to train the AIs...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Recently I've seen captchas with AI-generated images. Like "click pictures with a panda in a flower pot".

If the image is generated by AI, it must be easier for AI to identify right?

[–] maniajack 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] eager_eagle 3 points 1 year ago

look down to hands maybe I am a robot after all

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So the AI is able to tell when that 1 pixel in the corner of one square is actually part of a motorcycle?

[–] foggy 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao captchas are getting hard

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

These days they should take your ability to complete a captcha as evidence that you are in fact a bot.